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☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.ml to Memes@lemmy.mlEnglish · 6 hours ago

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☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.ml to Memes@lemmy.mlEnglish · 6 hours ago
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  • Alwaysnownevernotme@lemmy.world
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    6 hours ago

    Doesn’t this apply to almost every country?

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      projecting lol

      Americans are always amazed that different countries have different histories.

      I’ve heard similar things about “aren’t all countries founded on native genocide?”

      • Alwaysnownevernotme@lemmy.world
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        Ok tell me about the country with the moral founding.

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          Founded by capitalists that kept children as sex slaves — Doesn’t this apply to almost every country?

          Ok tell me about the country with the moral founding.

        • OBJECTION!@lemmy.ml
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          Vietnam.

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          Ireland?

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            Ireland is a bourgeois democracy, otherwise known as a bourgeois dictatorship.

            https://en.prolewiki.org/wiki/Library:The_German_ideology#Ruling_class_and_ruling_ideas

            The ideas of the ruling class are in every epoch the ruling ideas, i.e. the class which is the ruling material force of society, is at the same time its ruling intellectual force. The class which has the means of material production at its disposal, has control at the same time over the means of mental production, so that thereby, generally speaking, the ideas of those who lack the means of mental production are subject to it. The ruling ideas are nothing more than the ideal expression of the dominant material relationships, the dominant material relationships grasped as ideas.

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            The world’s tax haven now but I’ll go with ya for a cool thousand years.

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          This silly, idealist question isn’t the gotcha you think it is.

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            Actually it’s pretty foundational anarchist doctrine.

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              Christianity is anarchist doctrine?

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              You’re bolstering my case, given anarchism’s track record. Communism is founded on historical materialism, not on morality or idealism.

              But you don’t have to subscribe to communism to get value out of letting go of moralism.

              • 📖 The Moral Fool: A Case for Amorality
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                • Why Sam Harris is Wrong - A Critique of Sam Harris’ “The Moral Landscape”
                • If Morality Exists Everything Is Permitted. (Q&A)
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                Cool nobody asked.

                • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.mlOP
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                  just because you lack any inquisitiveness on your part, don’t assume the same for everyone else

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      certainly true for capitalist ones

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