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☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.ml to Memes@lemmy.mlEnglish · 5 hours ago

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  • Fishnoodle@lemmy.world
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    Lol, they want Clinton to be as dirty as Trump so badly.

    • davel [he/him]@lemmy.ml
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      Nice fantasy world you’re living in.

    • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.mlOP
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      lol, libs want to cling to the idea that their oligarchs are the good ones so badly

      • xtr0n@sh.itjust.works
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        There is a world of room between “good” and “ran a child sex trafficking ring”. Clinton may be a POS for many reasons and he may have visited Epstine island and maybe even raped children (we don’t know at this point but anyone in the flight logs is sus). That is all absolutely terrible but it’s still very different than kidnapping 10’s or hundreds of children to rape and pimp. And the files seem to indicate that Trump was actively involved in this scheme for decades.

        • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.mlOP
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          Seems to me that once you reach raping children stages there’s no need to split hairs further.

          • xtr0n@sh.itjust.works
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            Fair. I do think scale is sometime important. A single murder is not a genocide. But I can see your POV.

            Regardless, Clinton is awful but IDK what he did on the island. If he did rape kids then I hope they throw his ass in jail.

          • auraithx@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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            There’s no evidence he did anything inappropriate with kids.

            Trump, however, has been accused by multiple Epstein victims.

  • frightful_hobgoblin@lemmy.ml
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    The USA founders kept children as sex slaves? Details on this?

    • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.mlOP
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      buckle up, you’re about to learn some truly disturbing shit https://cdn.masto.host/socialmarxistnetwork/media_attachments/files/116/223/022/167/204/299/original/9764ae0811b84558.mp4

      • Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works
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        I’m curious but this video doesn’t seem to play in mobile on FF or Chrome

        • MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip
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          Open in browser then. It’s a .mp4.

        • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.mlOP
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          can try this link instead https://social.marxist.network/@yogthos/116223022810878412

  • Not_mikey@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    Were the Virginia planters keeping sex slaves capitalists though? Most of the capitalists at the time were up north where slavery was illegal by the founding.

    • Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works
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      Doesn’t living in luxury while building wealth on the labor of others count as capitalism?

  • Alwaysnownevernotme@lemmy.world
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    Doesn’t this apply to almost every country?

    • frightful_hobgoblin@lemmy.ml
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      projecting lol

      Americans are always amazed that different countries have different histories.

      I’ve heard similar things about “aren’t all countries founded on native genocide?”

      • Alwaysnownevernotme@lemmy.world
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        Ok tell me about the country with the moral founding.

        • auraithx@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          Ireland?

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            Ireland is a bourgeois democracy, otherwise known as a bourgeois dictatorship.

            https://en.prolewiki.org/wiki/Library:The_German_ideology#Ruling_class_and_ruling_ideas

            The ideas of the ruling class are in every epoch the ruling ideas, i.e. the class which is the ruling material force of society, is at the same time its ruling intellectual force. The class which has the means of material production at its disposal, has control at the same time over the means of mental production, so that thereby, generally speaking, the ideas of those who lack the means of mental production are subject to it. The ruling ideas are nothing more than the ideal expression of the dominant material relationships, the dominant material relationships grasped as ideas.

          • Alwaysnownevernotme@lemmy.world
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            The world’s tax haven now but I’ll go with ya for a cool thousand years.

        • davel [he/him]@lemmy.ml
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          This silly, idealist question isn’t the gotcha you think it is.

          • Alwaysnownevernotme@lemmy.world
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            Actually it’s pretty foundational anarchist doctrine.

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              You’re bolstering my case, given anarchism’s track record. Communism is founded on historical materialism, not on morality or idealism.

              But you don’t have to subscribe to communism to get value out of letting go of moralism.

              • 📖 The Moral Fool: A Case for Amorality
              • 📺
                • Why Sam Harris is Wrong - A Critique of Sam Harris’ “The Moral Landscape”
                • If Morality Exists Everything Is Permitted. (Q&A)
              • Alwaysnownevernotme@lemmy.world
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                Cool nobody asked.

                • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.mlOP
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                  just because you lack any inquisitiveness on your part, don’t assume the same for everyone else

    • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.mlOP
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      certainly true for capitalist ones

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