If 8.1 billion people marched on a government, even with a full array of advanced and nuclear weapons in their arsenal, would they still definitely lose? What about one billion? A hundred million? Ten million? Where do you think the line is?
Caveat: The government does want to be able to live on earth again within their lifetimes, but can spend up to a year in bunkers, and the military doesn’t revolt- given that nuclear weapons can be deployed by one person, the worst option doesn’t even really require the military’s cooperation.


Armchair general here who is bad at strategy games. Please take with a grain of salt.
The US sent advanced armies at several agricultural societies and still got their asses handed to them. I can imagine that in a domestic setting, the death toll will be high, but that the civilians eventually win. Also, I wonder whether the military would want to fight their own people. Then again, ICE is a thing as well.
ICE is a thing because bullies love when people don’t fight back. The moment their lives are on the lines they reveal themselves as the cowards they have always been.
The populace will eventually win a war of attrition if we stipulate that the world has to be livable afterwards, so you can’t just agent orange the globe.
I’m just wondering if there is a critical mass for a mob, basically, at which point it overpowers even the US military. I think it’s somewhere in the millions or tens of millions, but I have no idea how to narrow it down more.
There is no amount of civilians that beat the US military. You could gather 100% of the “ive got guns to fight the government” crowd, and they wouldnt do shit against tanks, helicopters, and jets… a mob is going to die unless there is an insurrection in the ranks of the people who control the equipment.
With the world being livable afterwards?