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    1 month ago

    Using this meme template for this message is absolutely wild when drake is a groomer.

    Edit: idk maybe it fits cause he is labeled as the ‘government’ and we all know what they’re up to.

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    Fighting against pedophilia

    How exactly is fighting against a mental illness going to solve anything? The majority of cases right now, Epstein, et all, are rapists not pedophiles in that context.

    Pedophilia isn’t going to magically dissapear, alas it should be less scrutinised such that those who are I’ll are helped. Rape is a crime which should be fighted against, an illness is not a crime.

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      Let’s not split hairs over rhetorics, we also call it “fight against cancer” and even though I’d love to see that bitch jailed it’ll most likely never happen.

      You’re generally right of course, we have to choose the right way to fight different kinds of evil.

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    If politicians REALLY wanted to protect children,

    They proceed to mix chlorine with bleach, stand up on a chair, put the rope around their own neck, aim the barrel up through the roof of their own mouth, and squeeze.

    all in a room locked from the inside.

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    do not “fight against pornography”, people should have freedom

    It confuses me how viewing porn is 18+ rather than being restricted behind age of consent (or even a bit before it). Being allowed to fuck but not to watch a video of people doing it (or even just see a picture of genitals) is total bullshit.

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    fighting against pedophilia

    You mean like gay conversion therapy?

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    Education costs money, and assumes majority of parents aren’t complete dolts themselves.

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    If you’re in the US and need help with resources for your child, look for your local Cub Scout pack or similar organization.

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    Don’t they just dwant to implement this survilance because they are too many bots and advertizers want prove their adds go to human, so meta & co are pushing for it in the guise of protecting kids?

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      I read that somewhere too. It’s also been suggested that SOME countries want to use it to actually do something about the Russian bots that interfere in their elections, but I don’t know.

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    When education and talking with kids actually seems to be accomplishing something, I’ll agree that it’s a good solution.

    We’re talking about ID verification because everything listed in the first part of this meme has failed (including, most importantly, depending on parental oversight) and we’re now at a point where the consequences require immediate regulation.

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      Nah. We haven’t even tried any of that stuff. We talked about trying that stuff and then didn’t and skipped right to mass surveilance.

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        That is factually incorrect.

        It was exposed in 2014 that FB was running experiments on its users by tinkering with their news feeds, so culturally, conversations around this have been happening for at least twelve years, and tech addiction has been a known problem for at least a decade. These products are designed to be addictive, induce mental illness, and foment rage bait because it keeps eyes glued to ads, and the corporate media providers know this.

        Now, we live in a world where it’s causing widespread mental illness in young people, because its effects are more pronounced in developing brains. This is a public health issue, and it’s not going to be solved with whoo whoo solutions like expecting parents to actually parent, because we can see from the last 5-10 years that this ‘solution’ is ineffective.

        Regulation is necessary, whether it’s ID verification, or banning cell phone sales to kids, or even limited solutions like disallowing cell phone use in schools.

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          Why should the regulation allow for more surveillance of users and data collection instead of outlawing the practices and algorithms that lead to many of these issues on the first place?

          They’ve been trying to tie devices to identities for years now, and doing so allows them greater leeway to fuck with people’s heads, to spread propaganda more effectively, and to target dissent against themselves and their allies. This doesn’t protect people from having their mental illnesses exacerbated, it just allows their disfunctions to be shaped in the direction tech billionaires want them to be.

          In my opinion, anything that uses an algorithm to drive engagement by presenting material designed to play on the emotions of the user should be outlawed outright. Video ads and paid content should be identified with title cards at the begining and end. Images and posts should be marked with headers and footers that make it clear this is paid content.

          If the user decides to subscribe or block certain content, that’s the user’s choice. But the timeline should always be based on time and date or activity and never influenced by paid advertisements or engagement.

          And that’s the bare minimum. I still consider that somewhat risky to interact with. If I had my druthers Facebook, Xitter, Reddit, and the rest would all be shuttered and taken offline next week.