Like of course 15 minute cities are going to be used as an excuse to curb travel freedoms

Cities with good city planning are no more at risk than cities with shitty city planning of travel freedoms being taken. So we may as well have good city planning that gives people as many options (freedom) as possible to choose their method of travel. Right now we don’t have that freedom, everyone is de-facto forced to own a car.

This is objectively a conspiracy theory with no supporting evidence.

fine the non-compliers like in Oxford, make travel as inconvient and confusing as possible.

Except that’s not how that fine system works:

Drivers will still be able to travel to any part of the city at any time, but may have to take a different route.

And that fine system is a completely different thing from a 15 minute city:

The 15-minute neighborhoods proposal, meanwhile, aims to ensure that “every resident has all the essentials (shops, healthcare, parks) within a 15-minute walk of their home,” the fact sheet says. The goal is to “support and add services, not restrict them.”

Having easily available services is a good thing. Not just for the planet but for our health as well.

I wonder if /fuckcars is grassroots or astroturf now.

It’s in the direct dis-interest of oil groups to allow people to exist without cars, so the opposition is astroturfed, and /r/fuckcars grassroots.