At least a million data points from 23andMe accounts appear to have been exposed on BreachForums. While the scale of the campaign is unknown, 23andMe says it’s working to verify the data.
At least a million data points from 23andMe accounts appear to have been exposed on BreachForums. While the scale of the campaign is unknown, 23andMe says it’s working to verify the data.
I can’t believe people voluntarily sent them their DNA.
The worst part is it you have enough family members who used these services your details are likely on there too.
I sent mine in because 75% of my DNA comes from sources unknown to me. It’s been interesting seeing what pops up.
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Someone help my dumb brain: what does that situation look like?
You only know your mother or father and one of their parents and have no idea of the three other grandparents?
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They also sent your DNA involuntarily. You can be IDed of someone in your genetic vicinity has sent theirs. They don’t even need to be super close.
Top notch victim blaming you got there…
ETA because I don’t engage with bigots:
Imagine that, the descendants of one of the biggest genocides in history want to try and piece their history together, and use the available tools to do it with, fucking shocker…
Then, when they continue getting targeted just for existing, privileged ignorant bigots who couldn’t even imagine what having over 90% of their community gassed is like, and have never been oppressed for who they are a day in their lives, simply can’t help themselves but jump to justify them being attacked again:
tHe bAstArDs dEseRve eVerYthInG tHey GeT!!11
And somehow not a word about the attackers, nor the company that failed its customers.
Sure, antisemitic Jan…🙄🙄🙄
“I can’t believe this incredibly obvious thing happened!” Isn’t really victim blaming, is it? They’re not saying they did it to themselves or they deserved it, they’re saying that this was bound to happen and people volunteered their DNA to a private company
… Therefore blaming them for using the service.
Why even have a capitalist economy if private businesses can just abuse people like that and the customer is routinely blamed for participating in the economy the only way they’re allowed to?
Thanks!
As if victim blaming is always wrong.
It is
E. g. if somebody loses money in a multilevel marketing scheme, is it wrong to blame the victim? Or is not every victim a victim?
Regarding your edit, that’s assuming a bit too much to defend your point.
But that’s what I asked for, your reason why there is no responsibility on the side of the victims.
To engage with that line of thinking: if you leave agency at people, you can ask why one would trust a company with that data when every conspiracy theorist doesn’t use that service specifically because of the risk of genocide.
But you are right, there are valid reasons to take the risk.
It’s always wrong to blame the victim, yes. You just genuinely don’t believe they actually are victims, and if you want to have that debate, be honest and have it. But you don’t get to recognize their victimhood and then invalidate it by implying their suffering is partly their fault.
Is this a choice of words issue? Saying that somebody could have prevented something and with that knowledge should prevent it next time doesn’t change victimhood for me. The suffering of the victim remains.
What is lost if the victim had some agency? Is there some metaphysical aspect to it? Are victims prechosen by fate and it’s a sacrilege to question their fate?
I can agree that a zebra being killed by lions shouldn’t be blamed. But a person who ignores advice from friends and joines a multilevel marketing scheme is not entirely innocent.
Because attributing any blame to a victim is always a sleazy attempt to shift all responsibility for a situation away from the aggressor and onto the victim. It’s a common abuse tactic.
Plus, most people really aren’t capable of doing what they need to do in life-threatening or abusive situations. Adults really don’t have as much agency as they like to pretend they do, and I personally am tired of being dishonest about it.
I say that as one of the people who has been abused partly through their own failings and iniquities. I don’t call myself a victim. I’m also not an average representative of people in abusive situations – I have always been and always was capable of doing far more than most other people, and so I am telling you from that experience that you cannot attribute any responsibility for a situation on a victim like that. Most people are just NPCs and you need to respect that.
I agree with your intentions. The integrity of a victim mustn’t be questioned. The issue to me is that it is not logical that attributing any blame does shift all responsibility. If that is the case then the victim is still in an abusive situation and priorities shouldn’t lie on the usage of language.
Thank you for sharing your experience. I hope that you are in a safe environment. I am overextending my position a bit and claim that despite your experience we shouldn’t accept limited agency in humans. For one, I have just been arguing that democracy relies on it. Apart from that, the aggressors can also claim limited agency. To me, that is not acceptable. Agency is a lie that we accept for the law to work. There are no aliens who take care of us. We have to make do with what we have.
That said, I am of course open to concepts about how to structure society with limited agency.
You say that like it’s a negative thing.
Some people actually want to know things and are curious about where they came from, what they’re made of, who their family is.
Submitting your DNA can increase your knowledge. It sounds like you can’t believe people would seek knowledge.
The point I think you could be missing is that the organizations which do this have been at best irresponsible, at worst negligent, in protecting customers personal information. There are obviously benefits to
thisa genetic record. Preserving a comprehensive genetic record for future generations to study is one. A database for law enforcement to use to solve very serious crimes like murder and rape. All that would be wonderful, but that information is already being misused and abused. Most people, myself included, don’t think these organizations will ever be responsible to their customers cause who the hell would believe that these days?But they trusted [youtuber]!!!
There are a lot of dumb people that wanted to know they were a pure breed European or something to brag about like an IQ test