• Holytimes@sh.itjust.works
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        If that’s mind boggling then you really need to read an actual history book.

        Life for the avg America is FAR from problematic enough to have riots start yet. Even our worse off tend to have just enough care from other Americans to be upset but content. We are taking care of our down trodden just enough.

        You need starvation, active destress, or wide spread unemployment.

        We have food it’s just expensive.

        We arnt in active physical danger.

        We have just enough jobs that groups of people arnt massing together.

        End of the day the very same message of help your fellow man, do good in your community and decades of social safety nets put into place. Are doing their job of allowing the American people to coast by happy enough.

        If you want riots then you need to start making people physically miserable, scared and hungry.

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          You’re not wrong about the conditions that historically lead to unrest, material desperation, fear, and breakdown of basic stability tend to be the tipping points. The U.S. government isn’t there for most citizens, and that’s not accidental.

          But what’s worth pointing out is that this “just stable enough” environment didn’t emerge naturally, it’s been actively managed over decades. And a strong case can be made that this is less about general governance and more about a long-term political strategy, particularly on the Republican side.

          You’ve had a pattern where social safety nets are publicly criticized, underfunded, or slowly eroded but rarely eliminated outright. Why? Because removing them completely would create exactly the kind of instability you’re describing. Instead, they’re kept barely functional. Enough to prevent collapse, not enough to meaningfully improve mobility or reduce inequality.

          At the same time, there’s been consistent resistance to policies that would shift people from “barely stable” to genuinely secure, things like stronger labor protections, universal healthcare, or aggressive wage growth. That keeps a large portion of the population economically stressed, but not desperate enough to unify or revolt. It fragments people using base animal instincts, keeps them focused on short-term survival, and limits collective action.

          Add in cultural and political polarization, and it further diffuses pressure. People incorrectly channel frustration horizontally, at each other, instead of vertically at faceless institutions.

          So yes, you’re right about the threshold for unrest. The uncomfortable part is recognizing that a lot of political strategy has been about keeping the country just below that threshold, stable enough to barely function, and strained enough to control.

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          We arnt in active physical danger.

          You arent in percieved active physical danger.

          If trump launches a nuke boy that sure will change lickity split tho

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          It’s understandable that not everyone wants to riot for moral values and against mass corruption, but surely everyone can see that it’s just a matter of time before distress comes to the USA if nothing is done right now? It’s pretty naive to assume that your new enemies won’t hit back in some way, and most of the world just wants the US to become a meaningless country, since everyone is sick of the constant abuse of power and its negative effects on the world economy and stability. To join riots right now is the least the American people can do. Throughout American history it was often needed for the many to fight the elite and that time has come again.

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      Simultaneous angry mobs outside the white house and mar-a-lago could be nice. I would come out from California to join that.

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      Didn’t Americans decide that dead kids in schools was an acceptable price for the right to own guns, specifically so you can overthrow your government when needed?

      You guys aren’t even striking yet. You’re just gonna allow this to happen. You guys elected him again, after it became clear he was a paedophilic capitalist working for the elite. America is lost.

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      Work together with independents and disenfranchised republicans to primary 75+% of the democratic party over the next 4 years.

      The GOP and the DNC are the sword and shield of the wealthy elites respectively.

      Not a short term solution, but the best time to plant a tree is 10 years ago. 2nd best time is today.

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      Who supports him?

      Who supports them?

      I think the application of pressure goes where its possible to apply it, instead of where it isn’t.

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      “I want to make everything possible to stop this government- as long as it doesn’t make me involved in anything “ “I live too far from everything to do anything “ “Our politics doesn’t work that way, you don’t understand that” “We are the land of free and all the guns and something “

    • pixxelkick@lemmy.world
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      Go find the richest person in your local city.

      You have one, they exist. Probably several in the same area.

      Make it their problem.

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      Then what was the point of all that 2nd amendment talk? Was it all bullshit cause you wanted to keep your pow pow?

      Guns and no balls, Thats what’s so dangerous about the regular American.

      Like I said elsewhere, your country was won by fat farmers and regular people who grew balls.

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        It was always bullshit the joke used to be they would be helpless and guns useless against a corrupt government. And as we learned it was always projection they want to be the corrupt government.

        Everyone’s to broke to travel and it takes 8 hours to drive across Nebraska

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        Jesus tap dancing Christ, man… It’s an illusion to make people believe they’ll always have the power to stand up. It clearly works, considering you’re quoting it and blaming the average citizens fighting back and going unnoticed because you couldn’t find the time to realize they’re trying to barely scrape by themselves. Blame the leaders who have a face, not the average citizen who’s actually protesting. Not everyone can light themselves on fire in public protests to appease you.