Ugh… He’s not impressed with the gasoline free, infinitely superior propulsion technology - he’s impressed by how much the in vehicle systems are like smartphones.
I threw up a little. We’re never escaping this bullshit.
I hate this chasing of overly complicated and excessive software in cars. The only touchscreen I want in my car is the one that let’s me run Android Auto for GPS and music. Everything else should be tactile analog switches and dials. Whichever person thought touchscreens are a safe UI choice in a fast moving death machine is insane.
Rest of the world if you live in Europe or China where they have enough bargaining power from their size I suppose. Doubt this will work in smaller countries and regions. Only hope is that the manufacturers feel that it’s not worth it to make 2 different models of the same car.
A few, like Tesla, have successfully made cars that act and feel like consumer devices—vehicles with lots of tech features, **** and a steady stream of meaningful software updates. Most are playing catch-up.
Yes they do. The internet is a loud minority on both ends. The majority is silent because they don’t give a shit about the politics of the CEO or privacy or reasonable expectations about their mobility appliance. It’s just an appliance. The more cool things it claims to do, the more it sells because the people buying NEW want it to look new.
This thread is full of “I don’t buy new, but here’s what new cars should do”. No, I don’t buy new either.
Ah, but they do. You have to be in this industry to realize just how stupid people can be. They will impulse buy a $60,000 car based on steering wheel shape and bullshit gadgetry. A friend boasted he could sell a car for $5K more just by hanging reflective cat toys around the interior. Tesla sales were driven by the big iPad more than the electric drive.
Tesla sales were driven by an $8,000 tax credit that doesn’t exist anymore. That company is sinking faster than the Titanic now that the tax credit has disappeared.
I do. Why does everyone in this thread like twiddling with HVAC controls? I like setting my temperature to 68 and Auto, and that’s it. Do you all also constantly mess with your home thermostats?
Okay here’s a situation. You’re on a road and it’s gotten foggy and the roads are a bit slick because of the fog. All of a sudden the comfortable 68° temperature you have the cabin set to is causing your windshield to fog up. On a car with buttons and knobs you can just reach over grab it twist a knob or press a button and change the setting. However, with touch screen menus you have to actually turn to look at the screen, taking your eyes off the road in unsafe weather, to find the setting to switch it to defog. That’s just one scenario there are at least a dozen others. Not to mention what would happen when it’s snowing out and you have to take your eyes off the road to search a touch screen for the right setting on anything. Radio, brights, 4 wheel drive, etc etc etc…
I want this car sooooo bad, the price pre-american tarrifs is absolutely amazing.
all car manufacturers have been phoning it in for years, it was only a matter of time before a decent threat decided to join in on the fun. I thought it would be tesla to be the major disrupter over ten years ago, but we all know how this is panning out lol
The other guy who went to China and was shocked was the CEO of Ford. He is driving a Xiaomi SU7 that he’s refusing to give up. Read the interview he gave after he visited China. https://insideevs.com/news/764318/ford-ceo-china-evs-humbled/
Ugh… He’s not impressed with the gasoline free, infinitely superior propulsion technology - he’s impressed by how much the in vehicle systems are like smartphones.
I threw up a little. We’re never escaping this bullshit.
I hate this chasing of overly complicated and excessive software in cars. The only touchscreen I want in my car is the one that let’s me run Android Auto for GPS and music. Everything else should be tactile analog switches and dials. Whichever person thought touchscreens are a safe UI choice in a fast moving death machine is insane.
There’s still hope for the rest of the world
https://www.autoblog.com/news/europe-and-china-now-require-physical-buttons-in-cars-will-the-us-follow
They did that just to fuck over Tesla in China.
Rest of the world if you live in Europe or China where they have enough bargaining power from their size I suppose. Doubt this will work in smaller countries and regions. Only hope is that the manufacturers feel that it’s not worth it to make 2 different models of the same car.
Amen.
Stop providing distractions to the assholes around me, they are dangerous enough as it is.
Touchscreens are cheaper to install than tactile buttons. That’s the draw for carmakers.
“smooth digital interfaces”
Nobody actually fucking wants this!
Yes they do. The internet is a loud minority on both ends. The majority is silent because they don’t give a shit about the politics of the CEO or privacy or reasonable expectations about their mobility appliance. It’s just an appliance. The more cool things it claims to do, the more it sells because the people buying NEW want it to look new.
This thread is full of “I don’t buy new, but here’s what new cars should do”. No, I don’t buy new either.
The alternative at this point is laggy digital interfaces unfortunately.
Ah, but they do. You have to be in this industry to realize just how stupid people can be. They will impulse buy a $60,000 car based on steering wheel shape and bullshit gadgetry. A friend boasted he could sell a car for $5K more just by hanging reflective cat toys around the interior. Tesla sales were driven by the big iPad more than the electric drive.
Tesla sales were driven by an $8,000 tax credit that doesn’t exist anymore. That company is sinking faster than the Titanic now that the tax credit has disappeared.
I do. Why does everyone in this thread like twiddling with HVAC controls? I like setting my temperature to 68 and Auto, and that’s it. Do you all also constantly mess with your home thermostats?
Okay here’s a situation. You’re on a road and it’s gotten foggy and the roads are a bit slick because of the fog. All of a sudden the comfortable 68° temperature you have the cabin set to is causing your windshield to fog up. On a car with buttons and knobs you can just reach over grab it twist a knob or press a button and change the setting. However, with touch screen menus you have to actually turn to look at the screen, taking your eyes off the road in unsafe weather, to find the setting to switch it to defog. That’s just one scenario there are at least a dozen others. Not to mention what would happen when it’s snowing out and you have to take your eyes off the road to search a touch screen for the right setting on anything. Radio, brights, 4 wheel drive, etc etc etc…
Automated defogging is already a thing in some cars.
The fog was not the point.
Yes but also why can’t you just turn a knob to make it 68 (I don’t know how much this is) and press a button for auto?
I’m really not surprised. Detroit hires engineers but they suck the creativity out of them and just make the same tired shit decade after decade.
I want this car sooooo bad, the price pre-american tarrifs is absolutely amazing.
all car manufacturers have been phoning it in for years, it was only a matter of time before a decent threat decided to join in on the fun. I thought it would be tesla to be the major disrupter over ten years ago, but we all know how this is panning out lol
Have you seen their SUV, Xiaomi YU7? I’m not a SUV kinda guy but that is my favorite car right now.
yes! very nice car as well