Who cares anymore though? Microsoft burned all their bridges to places where the kinds of people who get excited about this kind of thing hang out. There is no button they can press to unburn those bridges and no gurantee, indeed little likelihood they can rebuild them when better bridges have been built to better places in the meantime.
Some people still want to feel like Windows is something they own, like back when it was something you installed on-top-of DOS. Taming the hostile mess its become is still rarely worse than de-bloating a new OEM PC ever was, and if you use your PC rarely-enough, there’s hassle aspects that blur into near-parity versus Linux(updates, anyone?)
… share a PC with others, and just keeping Open-Shell(plus PowerToys and/or StartAllBack, or sometimes Rainmeter for a laugh) on one’s profile looks sufficient, versus dual-booting or whatever. Personally, my Laptop can go un-used(by me, anyways) for months and months, and letting my family use it helps keep it up-dated and let’s me know if problems arrise before I run face-first into them in a moment when I just need the thing to work.
I’m looking-forward to each of my kids having their own capable laptops(just ONE more …), but until then, Windows updates are stupid-prone to breaking dual-boot, only one of my kids likes/uses Linux half-so-much as I do, and even he is in more of the tweak-it-until-it-breaks-and-start-over dabbler stage, so I let him keep to his own laptop and a pile of old used ones(and consoles…) that are older than he is. 99% of what I would use it for in the mean-time, I just use my phone.
What in God’s Green Earth are you talking about, “windows-or-nothing people”? Employers? Schools? Told a lot of them to kick dirt, but with them owning the buildings, that basically amounted to me walking away.
One of my favorite things about my current employer is that the “Windows” part doesn’t matter -it just happens to be the only thing the bespoke software suites we use will run-on, and the entire shift is spent in those applications anyways. I’ve almost got my boss convinced to ditch Acrobat Reader though, or rather, its constant demands to be allowed to present AI Summaries of confidential documents is doing the convincing for me.
The simple fact is, all four of my children can generally get done what they want/need to in Windows, Mac, Chrome, Android or IOS, including customization or “esoteric” stuff, and get on with their lives, without coming to me pretending there aren’t a million tutorials on Youtube for whatever and that they shouldn’t even have to check there first. Only one of them has shown the same aptitude, willingness, patience, what-have-you, for Linux. Another is just too young to tell where she’ll go with all that.
I meet my users and use-cases where they are and presume a heterogenous network/device environment. That becomes and stays true the moment you introduce a game console, a printer, a tablet, phone and/or a router of all things.
I like Linux, love it and can’t wait to get back to using it more in fact, but using only Linux isn’t going to leave me with any way to relate to or convince people who are sceptical and comfortable with another OS they are already comfortable with, and forcing it into the present state of my life is going to demand time I don’t have available for the next year or so, but it was my daily driver for years and will be again.
Meanwhile, I’m counting down a shorter-every-day fuse for when the one boy wants an Amiga or roll-your-own-“retro” device of some sort to go with his RaspberryPi, OrangePi, plus various consoles and old phones he’s torn-down to the compotenent leven and built back up(successfully … err … to a surprising degree anyways), and his brother just laid claim to my (kickstarter-era)Snapmaker A350 CNC/Laser/3D Printer.
Who cares anymore though? Microsoft burned all their bridges to places where the kinds of people who get excited about this kind of thing hang out. There is no button they can press to unburn those bridges and no gurantee, indeed little likelihood they can rebuild them when better bridges have been built to better places in the meantime.
Yep. I’ve picked my Linux distro and I’m going to make time for doing this soon
Some people still want to feel like Windows is something they own, like back when it was something you installed on-top-of DOS. Taming the hostile mess its become is still rarely worse than de-bloating a new OEM PC ever was, and if you use your PC rarely-enough, there’s hassle aspects that blur into near-parity versus Linux(updates, anyone?)
… share a PC with others, and just keeping Open-Shell(plus PowerToys and/or StartAllBack, or sometimes Rainmeter for a laugh) on one’s profile looks sufficient, versus dual-booting or whatever. Personally, my Laptop can go un-used(by me, anyways) for months and months, and letting my family use it helps keep it up-dated and let’s me know if problems arrise before I run face-first into them in a moment when I just need the thing to work.
I’m looking-forward to each of my kids having their own capable laptops(just ONE more …), but until then, Windows updates are stupid-prone to breaking dual-boot, only one of my kids likes/uses Linux half-so-much as I do, and even he is in more of the tweak-it-until-it-breaks-and-start-over dabbler stage, so I let him keep to his own laptop and a pile of old used ones(and consoles…) that are older than he is. 99% of what I would use it for in the mean-time, I just use my phone.
I refer the windows-or-nothing people to templeOS. tell 'em it’s a righteous distro lol
What in God’s Green Earth are you talking about, “windows-or-nothing people”? Employers? Schools? Told a lot of them to kick dirt, but with them owning the buildings, that basically amounted to me walking away.
One of my favorite things about my current employer is that the “Windows” part doesn’t matter -it just happens to be the only thing the bespoke software suites we use will run-on, and the entire shift is spent in those applications anyways. I’ve almost got my boss convinced to ditch Acrobat Reader though, or rather, its constant demands to be allowed to present AI Summaries of confidential documents is doing the convincing for me.
The simple fact is, all four of my children can generally get done what they want/need to in Windows, Mac, Chrome, Android or IOS, including customization or “esoteric” stuff, and get on with their lives, without coming to me pretending there aren’t a million tutorials on Youtube for whatever and that they shouldn’t even have to check there first. Only one of them has shown the same aptitude, willingness, patience, what-have-you, for Linux. Another is just too young to tell where she’ll go with all that.
I meet my users and use-cases where they are and presume a heterogenous network/device environment. That becomes and stays true the moment you introduce a game console, a printer, a tablet, phone and/or a router of all things.
I like Linux, love it and can’t wait to get back to using it more in fact, but using only Linux isn’t going to leave me with any way to relate to or convince people who are sceptical and comfortable with another OS they are already comfortable with, and forcing it into the present state of my life is going to demand time I don’t have available for the next year or so, but it was my daily driver for years and will be again.
Meanwhile, I’m counting down a shorter-every-day fuse for when the one boy wants an Amiga or roll-your-own-“retro” device of some sort to go with his RaspberryPi, OrangePi, plus various consoles and old phones he’s torn-down to the compotenent leven and built back up(successfully … err … to a surprising degree anyways), and his brother just laid claim to my (kickstarter-era)Snapmaker A350 CNC/Laser/3D Printer.