• BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.cafe
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    I once had an argument with a MAGA who told me that NYC has always LOVED Trump, and that he’s the “King of New York.” He actually said that.

    I told him that I guessed he isn’t from NYC, because I am a New Yorker-in-law, and can definitively say that New Yorkers despise him, and further they have always despised him, and further, they have always deeply resented that somehow he represents NYC to many in the world. Turns out I was right, he’d never been to NYC. He was just repeating nonsense from the Conservative Propaganda Machine.

    Trump is hated more in NYC, than probably anywhere else. His own home town despises him.

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      Yeah. The bad parts (I mean aside from the general entitled assholery, racism and classism, hooking up other elites, tossing bills at his victims, etc) are really truly fucking bad.

      At one point the feds had not adequately culled the visual files like pics and video, and you could append various extensions to files labeled pdf. Body parts are black boxed; context is not. I made that mistake exactly once. Jesus fucking christ there is some evil shit in this world, and a great deal of it exists in Epstein/Trump’s world, by deliberate choice.

      The feds have since shut that loophole down, which is a bit rich: they don’t want to shut the reality of those horrors perpetrated upon children down, just the visual evidence of it. I genuinely hope the afterlife involves all these people getting fucked sideways with a rusty lawnmower blade into eternity.

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    This needs to be replicated or relocated across the street from wherever Trumps fucking con library ends up.

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    Uhhhh… I was ready to stand up and clap, but the more you read the lamer it gets! A) It’s an art exhibit that doesn’t sound even remotely permanent. B) Only members of government and law enforcement are permitted access to the files — so, the folks who already did fuck all. C) All of this information was already released publicly and is widely available, albeit not in hard copy… unless, you know, you want to; buy a laser printer, visit a Kinko’s… which feels like the most appropriate place to get something like this printed.

    If they were honestly interested in disseminating this information to the public without exposing the identities of people that are unredacted they could’ve done something useful like redact the documents themselves.

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      Hard disagree. The fact it’s an art exhibit is the point, not a defect. The article summarizes it better than I could:

      The library—essentially, the Epstein files in analog—is intended to represent the staggering scale of Epstein’s crimes, as well as the impunity with which he carried them out. More than 17,000 pounds [7700 kg] of evidence is on display at the library, says David Garrett, the main organizer of the exhibit at the Institute for Primary Facts, a nonprofit intended to promote transparency and accountability in the US government.

      If you went into this expecting it to be about accessibility, that’s not the library’s fault. The fact that it’s giving these a physical form is the point, because it’s 1) giving a visceral representation of how immense the scale of these crimes were and 2) showing that this is 100% out in the open despite essentially fuck-all being done about it. It is a monument to injustice.

      It’s a statement. Art exhibits make statements. And honestly, reading about this one shook me a little, reminding me after half a decade how profoundly abnormal all of this really is. It’s a way for the audience to ground themselves, and it achieves that magnificently – I’m sure even better in person.

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      B) Only members of government and law enforcement are permitted access to the files — so, the folks who already did fuck all.

      To be clear, everyone can see the exhibit, it’s showing the huge amount of the files and how crazy it is. I’m not sure you looked into it.

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        While the exhibit is open to the public, the article specifies that the files contain unredacted names and are not available to be viewed by the general public.

        Though the installation will be open to the public, only journalists and members of law enforcement are permitted to actually read through the files; others will still be able to view the timeline and the tribute to survivors.

        That’s not to say the exhibit won’t be impactful.

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          I hope they have two walls, labeled “upsetting” and “disturbing”, I haven’t looked though the files myself because I really want to avoid disturbing without any warning.

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    The Franklin Incident ends right before this timeline starts. Dosens dead by the end. Found shot, killed self after recant, CIA director washed up dead, fell out a window, blew up a prop plane with an investigator and his son on board, they even gave Alisha Owens 15 years for perjury as an example.

    I like pointing this out because the CIA connections make it seem like a precursor to Epstein and Maxwell’s operation if not the same operation

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    ““The evidence in this room is evidence of one of the most horrific crimes in American history,” Garrett says. “When people come through this room, I hope they realize that in America, we have the rule of law, and if they stand up they can take action and demand accountability for the crimes that were committed.””

    Is this “rule of law” in the room with us?

    Why are you printing shit out instead of going and getting that there accountability taken care of, bro? Hmmm almost like you know demanding accountability won’t do shit so the best you can do is just make sure people don’t forget about how we’re all getting fucked. But recognizing that I’m getting fucked isn’t the same as not getting fucked. It’s a good thing he’s done, but it’s ridiculous and annoying that he said this. Totally normalizing, system-preserving bullshit. We wouldn’t need to make cutesy libraries about this if there was ever going to be accountability.

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      What a bad take.

      Why are you printing shit out instead of going and getting that there accountability taken care of, bro

      What power do you think this non-profit has to do anything about it? Riling people up with a public exhibit that shows the physical scale of the files for the first time is more than 99.9% of people.

      Including people like you making an anonymous comment on a server in another country about how someone you surely just learned about isn’t doing enough.

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        Well like I said, I think he is doing a good thing. And I like the exhibit.

        “What power do you think this non-profit has to do anything about it?”

        Exactly, no power. That’s why him saying “if they stand up they can take action and demand accountability for the crimes that were committed” is a ridiculous thing to say.

        1. People already have been standing up, taking action, and demanding accountability. Absolutely nothing happens
        2. As you yourself admit, him and his exhibit cannot demand accountability either

        So in what sense is he saying something true here?

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          A single person is powerless but a collective is not.

          I think you vastly overestimate how much the average person knows about all this if you find no value in spreading the word. You might even overestimate how much the above-average person even remembers about the case. Epstein died 7 years ago and a whole lot of other bad things have happened since

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            Hmmm that’s a good point. I keep trying to teach myself the lesson to lower that bar. I mean, I still think that there have been enough people upset about Epstein even just this last year that we should have seen something happen.

            But it’s true that it might take more people than the amount that we would like…and you’re right that there’s probably a lot of people who know next to nothing about it.

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              There’s a whole generation of adults who were just kids when it was in the news. Trump’s approval is tanking and more people flipping every day, open to hearing this information that they deliberately avoided.

              I’ll be honest, I’ve been thinking way more about Iran than Epstein lately. So even for me it’s a good reminder not to lose sight