Do they actually know how the technology works? They will have to scan everything inbound and outbound connections, basically managed devices.

Apple and Google have been given a three-month ultimatum to make it impossible for children to take, share or view nude images on their smartphones, British Prime Minister Keir Starmer said on Monday.

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    Yeah bro we’re totally just scanning everything you send just on the off chance that a child (even though you have none and don’t know any) are takes your phone and uses it to send a dick pic haha no bro don’t worry it’s for their safety haha

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      And, because Apple cares about us, they can create the Personal Pictures Privacy Pro subscription. A plan where any compromising images are kept out of public dark web Facebook groups, for the low price of $29.95 per month.

      Disclaimer: Privacy and security applied by your Personal Pictures Privacy Pro plan will be generated by mid-tier cost effective AI, which itself was trained on the work of the most affordable people who told us they were privacy and security experts.

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      I estimate about 3 months until an inevitable data breach where it turns out they actually keep copies of all of the images because of course they will.

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    My partner sent me some dirties and the new iphone asked her if she was sure.

    Creepy shit.

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    Surveillance is not security. When fully formed Surveillance is slavery.

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      If one party decides to make the country an open air prison, all it does is secure political victory towards their opposition party that intend to reverse those changes. The flag might change, but the methods stay the same.

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    • Demand <something impossible> to “protect the children” or else we’ll do <even more dystopian surveillance>
    • <something impossible> is not done because, well, it’s impossible.
    • Do <even more dystopian surveillance> whilst claiming “they gave us no other choice”
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      Actually, yeah. That offloads the responsibility to the parents. I think that solution actually works…

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        What sort of nightmarish personal responsibility world are you proposing? I don’t want to have to raise my own damn kids.

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    If Apple and Google are sending kids nude images, then their parents are showing them porn by giving them phones.

    Let me guess, the solution is age verification for everyone?

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      Easy, just send every parent who gives a minor a phone to prison. Problem solved!

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    Make it illegal for their parents to give them phones and computing devices that can send and receive pictures. Problem solves.

    No but seriously education for both parents and children. Because while I do believe these companies play their role in how children interact online and what they interact with, I don’t believe they’re going to be able to stop anyone from sending something or receiving something they want to send without invasive and possibly traumatic tactics that will effect people regardless of age group.

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    Over reach dressed up as protection for children.

    I don’t have kids myself so can’t say I understand how prevalent this problem is, but I can imagine it’s not as big of a problem as what politicians are making out. Certainly not big enough that this can be the answer, even if this legitimately required a solution, such a solution would surely be a last resort.

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      Easiest solution is awarness. Teach the parents how to monitor their children and how to use parental control. They can offer classes for this.

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        Its just crazy the amount of stupid laws that poo up in place of covering for poor parenting lol

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      On iOS parental controls let you choose to manage the child’s contacts. So they can only communicate with anyone you put in there. You can also block communication in apps. You can also block unapproved websites or let Apple block the ones in its list. You can set age restrictions on everything. You can be pretty heavy-handed if you want to. You can also buy the kid a dumb phone.

      He may as well be saying that he needs to put cameras in every car to verify that kids are wearing seatbelts if they’re in the car. That would likely reduce more harm than this, but it’s also more obvious what the problem is.

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    I wonder what would happen if those companies simply told the UK government it wasn’t possible, and withdrew from the market?

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    Fucking hell, can we get an age and qualification limit on politicians already?

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    What’s more likely, the prime minister is a clueless idiot who keeps making blunder after blunder and is too stupid to even consider asking for advice from experts in the field, or he’s paid by terrorists?

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      I’m not sure if I agree with this take. To me, it is similar to saying we shouldn’t give kids free lunches, cause it’s the parents responsibility to feed their kid.

      Like yeah, parents should be feeding their kid. But it’s also unreasonable to think that every single parent is doing that. It’s just not realistic, so we should definitely be feeding kids when they aren’t getting it at home.

      On the same token, I don’t see anything wrong with trying to protect kids from talking with strangers, or getting sent explicit material, when their parents don’t know or care how to do it themselves.

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        then enforce child predator laws. or rape laws in general. thats a REAL rabbit hole that will disgust any normal person. the problem is that nobody wants to deal with the actual problem so they outsource it to privacy nightmares like what we are seeing now

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          I don’t think it HAS to be a privacy nightmare. It’s possible for all of this to happen securely on device.

          That being said I do not trust most corporations to implement it securely.

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          I mostly agree with everything you say, except for one thing.

          I’m pretty sure it’s technically possible to detect nude images, on device, 100% securely, without anyone ever knowing it was detected. This probably isn’t the approach that some corporations will take, but as far as I am aware, this is how the current nude detection on iPhone works. It’s all on device, and just blurs it so the user has to accept a warning before seeing the content. If you control your phone, you can disable it. If it’s a phone setup for a child, the child cannot disable it. It’s up to the parent to specify what the child is allowed to do.