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      The neat thing is: It’s a record high. It was literally never this hot before.

      Not that these discussions are about facts at all, but now you have one to confront them with.

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    “Fun” fact: this heat wave already has a Wikipedia page that also shows of the 22 affected areas only four (Austria, Jersey, Slovakia and Slovenia) have not (yet) recorded a record high temperature.

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    Germany has laws about requiring a certain heating level in the winter for safety and comfort reasons. I hope we can vote the CDU out next opportunity and talk about requiring a certain cooling level in the summer because it’s dangerously hot in most apartments these days.

    I won’t rant about landlords here but like, if there isn’t a law this change won’t happen and people will die because of it. I can’t imagine living in a Dachgeschoss right now. My last one got ~5-10 degrees hotter than outside.

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      There are legal limits above which you are allowed to withhold rent. I do not know them by heart since I live in a sunny but colder region of Germany.

      So at some point the owner has to take measures to lower the temperature. Be it by installing better insulation or by installing AC. Also: you only have to prove it’s too warm, the owner would need to prove you yourself are causing the heat, if they want to curb paying.

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        More insulation doesn’t work. At some point it actively becomes more of a problem than a solution.

        You HAVE to remove the heat inside some how or you just create an oven.

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        There is no general legal framework for this. There have been decisions in court to allow the withholding of rent due to heat, or to force the landlord to improve the building. However, there have also been cases where the court ruled that the heat is part of “general risk of living”. It all depends on the exact situation and the decision of a judge, because most landlords will probably tell you to kick rocks when you contact them about this.

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          After consulting the Grüneberg, you seem to be right. That is probably just a matter of time though. The Germam High court is notorously pro renter and climate change will also make these matters only worse.

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        Why not? Merz is the chancellor after all. It’s safe to assume the majority of voters wanted him to be in power, even if they are all retirees and idiots.

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          We don’t vote our chancellor, nor our ministers. We vote our parliament, the parliament votes the chancellor, the chancellor appoints their cabinets.

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            That is no excuse, our majority has been voting again and again for a mixture of CDU and SPD - two parties that give a fuck about the environment. And the AFD is probably gaining more and more votes. This country is becoming a total shit show. Aber die Grünen…

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              Show me one country governed by a green majority. Also, prove the majority vote for SPD and CDU is based in a support for coal and not just climate being not a priority when voting.

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                Not sure what your point is and I don’t mean it’s good, but Baden Württemberg is at least a state governed by the green.

                Anyways I think we should move all elections to mid summer - that should get some people to consider climate issues when voting.

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                  Baden-Württemberg is not a country.

                  My point is it is pointless to point at Germany for “supporting” coal burning electricity. Germany is not a singularity here and has the same problems with conservative politicians as any other european country.

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                Climate not being a priority is the ground for leaders to support coal and overall inaction.

                Same as in France, where Macron said (again) that he couldn’t possibly anticipate a historical canicule event, even though there was one in 2003, and scientists and activists have been warning that France was warming up at least twice faster than the rest of the world.

                Same in Canada where Carney rescinded almost all climate policies in favor of oil business.

                It’s time to recognize our collective responsibility here: we elect ignorant idiots!

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          To me, your take is completely uninformed, so allow me to enlighten you. When Russia attacked Ukraine, oil prices spiked and conservative media were trying to cause a panic that Germany hadn’t enough natural gas to get through the winter. Tangent: The natural gas levels are much lower today than they ever were 2022, but because we now have a conservative government, conservative media doesn’t care. Anyway, because the start of the Ukraine war was such a volatile time and to assuage any fears, the last government decided to give the last 3 operational nuclear power plants a 6 month extension and to bring back coal power plants as backup. And that is what they ever where. A backup. And building nuclear power takes decades and costs billions. They help neither in the short-, nor long-term.

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            Username does not check out ^^

            Very much detailed and to the point. Thanks for taking your time against false information matey ❤️

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            Plus on top to the current topic of ever hotter summers: What do nuclear power plants help if they need to be shut down constantly b/c of too hot water temperatures in the rivers? (looks at France)

            PV loses a bit of efficiency in heat, but is still very much operational.

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          That was 2023 to prevent an energy crisis triggered by the russian invasion in Ukraine and these coal plants (not mines!) were already shut down again.

          And nuclear is not an alternative.

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          sry but german nuclear power plants were a mismanaged mess and their closure probably saved lives. all power plants along the rhine river leaked thousands of tobs of irradiated water into the environment, same goes for those at the neckar. those are the ones i know for a fact.

          they were outdated. mismanaged and ticking time bombs and it was time to put them to rest, maybe not that quick but better than never.

          building new power plants just doesn’t make sense because renewables are just WAYYYY cheaper in the long run aswell as the fact nobody wants to build or run a power plant. that’s just an afd and markus söder pipedream.

          solar/wind is about 7ct/kwh after investments while nuclear fuel is at about 35ct/kwh

          our renewable output is almost doubling every year despite the cdu government’s best efforts to turn back to coal because reiche is a board member of E.On.

          Fuck germany but their nuclear exit was a net positive.

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            all power plants along the rhine river leaked thousands of tobs of irradiated water into the environment, same goes for those at the neckar. those are the ones i know for a fact.

            Do you actually have proof/a source for that?

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              if you look into the other comment you’ll see i posted a link with a map of all european npp’s and if you click on them you’ll see all recorded accidents at these power plants.

              i’m also not trying to argue that nuclear is worse than coal, far from it evn. but the power plants we had were old and dangerous and in the age of cheap renewables it doesn’t make sense to build them anymore in europe

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          Since everyone mostly responded to the nuclear stuff, I am not very aware of a reopening or even extention of german coal mining. As far as I know the predefined end of germanys coal mining (at the very least surface coal mining) is still 2030 (unless the CDU decided to fuck that over as well).

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    Hang in there our German brothers and sisters, the heat finally broke in NL last night.

    Of course, it’s still 26C and 80% humidity, so YMMV.

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    just need to hang on for a bit longer and when AMOC fails the heat waves will be a much lower priority! \s

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      See, if that happens, it will cause extreme cold in winter which basically makes up for the heatwaves in summer! Checkmate liberals /s

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    Apart from Global Warming, what explains the crazy high temperature? No wind? Too many mountains blocking weather? Why is it so hot?

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    That’s like the daily temp in South Florida right now… And we haven’t even hit August yet.