Will you accept evidence? Or will you downvote and call me a Russian bot?
[…] Or downvote and maybe throw an insult my way, that works too.

Really? You could not do it without weird and undounded assumptions? C’mon, grow up.

Anyway, I appriciate you provide actual reasoning for your arguments. I’ll read into it.

I’m not. And you are nothing but insulting.

you are the one corroborating the claim iran is killing its people

Do you know what (to) corroborate means?

Top left and botzom right look… not real.

What did I invent, exactly?

we are very aware of the guardian’s propaganda

Evidence or GTFO.

I am doing nothing. You are claiming bullshit and don’t even know jackshit about the news outlets you’re making up shit about.

Also, I’m not even from the US.

That’s a claim you’d need to provide evidence for. Really, really good evidence.

The Guardian is british.

If I had to choose between the two, I rather be in a dystopian system that preserves its dystopia with calm, naive civility rather than armed death squads.

In a similar regard to OP’s answer: why do you think that would be your only two choices, between “bad” and “worse”? Why not go another route that’s more akin to “good”?

Also I think this is less about specific aspects of dystopia and more about “Don’t let the shiny surface blind you towards the rotten core”.

but all told I’d much rather live in the Demolition Man future than Judge Dredd or Death Race 2000.

But all the dystopian elements is not necessarily the price for the improvements. The message of the movie (to me) was “don’t get fooled by some shiny surface when the core is rotten.”
And your choice is not between “bad” and “worse”. We can imagine even better futures (Star Trek Federation citizenship seems to be pretty neat (if you’re not trying to settle some fringe worlds at the cardassian border) for example), so we can work on these.

The supposed utopia is modeled after the ideal of suburban USA. That’s pretty fucking dystopic. Add to that tge prohibition of kissing, sex, Rock music, etc…

I think someone didn’t watch or utterly misunderstood the movie.

I don’t eat mushrooms, I’m safe.

Na, I don’t have a lot of spoons for this anymore. I don’t want to read that, because I’m a little impulsive sometimes and have a hard time not to engage, and I need the energy for people I may actually convince. Not just in political questions, just generally. There are more important things than infighting on the internet.

Wrong. I criticised the db0-governance post for delivering supposed evidence for feddit.org-admins’ supposed zionism that actually only were evidence for db0-users behaving like assholes.

And since you can only deflect and not actually argue, this discussion is over. In case you wonder why I won’t answer furher comments by you, I can’t see them anymore since I place you on my blocklist. People like you are the reason I’m really considering placing lemmy.ml as an instance on that list. Well done.

When I was new to Lemmy, I wanted to get memes, and the migration tool suggested the memes on lemmy.ml. It didn’t take long before my first comment disagreeing with some tankie over USSR and chinese communism got removed for “Civility”. It was a normal, non-insulting comment in expectance of a normal conversation.
You cannot criticise China’s treatment of the Uyghurs without getting your comments removed and almost everyone with a .ml-account I’ve encountered denied the crimes and genocides of USSR, the Russian Federation and China, and this denial is enforced by mods and admins.
I’m really wondering what db0-admins think about defeserating lemmy.ml though.

Why the whataboutism? Please answer my question and do not answer with whataboutism or the discussion is over.

How would you categorize the community rules “Be nice to each other”, “Don’t insult each other” and “Don’t call for violence”? Just or unjust, dair or unfair, sensible or dumb, expedient or not?

Yeah, the good old “You are a Nazi for following rules”-thing. Because everyone who follows rules does so indly, except for oneself.

Oh, yeah, “They removed my comment where I’m just an asshole and telling people to kill themselves, they are such zionists 😭”

The fuck is wrong with you guys?

I just want to fathom the borders here. If everything is a meme, why are we not posting news, games, tutorials, etc in this comm?