To me, your take is completely uninformed, so allow me to enlighten you. When Russia attacked Ukraine, oil prices spiked and conservative media were trying to cause a panic that Germany hadn’t enough natural gas to get through the winter. Tangent: The natural gas levels are much lower today than they ever were 2022, but because we now have a conservative government, conservative media doesn’t care. Anyway, because the start of the Ukraine war was such a volatile time and to assuage any fears, the last government decided to give the last 3 operational nuclear power plants a 6 month extension and to bring back coal power plants as backup. And that is what they ever where. A backup. And building nuclear power takes decades and costs billions. They help neither in the short-, nor long-term.
Plus on top to the current topic of ever hotter summers:
What do nuclear power plants help if they need to be shut down constantly b/c of too hot water temperatures in the rivers? (looks at France)
PV loses a bit of efficiency in heat, but is still very much operational.
That was 2023 to prevent an energy crisis triggered by the russian invasion in Ukraine and these coal plants (not mines!) were already shut down again.
sry but german nuclear power plants were a mismanaged mess and their closure probably saved lives. all power plants along the rhine river leaked thousands of tobs of irradiated water into the environment, same goes for those at the neckar. those are the ones i know for a fact.
they were outdated. mismanaged and ticking time bombs and it was time to put them to rest, maybe not that quick but better than never.
building new power plants just doesn’t make sense because renewables are just WAYYYY cheaper in the long run aswell as the fact nobody wants to build or run a power plant. that’s just an afd and markus söder pipedream.
solar/wind is about 7ct/kwh after investments while nuclear fuel is at about 35ct/kwh
our renewable output is almost doubling every year despite the cdu government’s best efforts to turn back to coal because reiche is a board member of E.On.
Fuck germany but their nuclear exit was a net positive.
all power plants along the rhine river leaked thousands of tobs of irradiated water into the environment, same goes for those at the neckar. those are the ones i know for a fact.
2018: Block 1: Berufungsgericht in Colmar bestätigt Verurteilung des Betreibers nach Klage von Umweltorganisationen: Nach Eindringen von 100.000 Liter Wasser am 28.2.15 und Ausfall wichtiger Geräte wurde das Leck repariert, aber wenige Tage trat neues Leck auf, wieder strömte Wasser in den Maschinenraum. Der Betreiber habe nicht ausreichend die Gründe für Störfall ermittelt.
Deutschland - Philippsburg [stillgelegt]
2002: Block 1: bei Reinigungsarbeiten gelangen 7.000 Liter radioaktiv verseuchtes Wasser in die Regenwasserkanalisation.
2004: erneut gelangen ca. 30 m³ radioaktiv verseuchtes Wasser in den Rhein.
2010: Block 2: nach demLösen eines Abdichtstopfens aus einer Kühlleitung laufen 280.000Liter radioaktives Wasser aus dem Brennelementebecken
Deutschland - Biblis [stillgelegt]
1987: Block A: Kühlmittelverlust, ein Ventil schließt nicht. Die Mannschaft hält 16 Stunden lang die Anzeige für defekt und erkennt erst danach den Störfall.
Deutschland - Jülich [stillgelegt]
1978: 27.000 Liter Wasser treten durch ein Leck in den heliumgekühlten Primärkreislauf ein, erst 6 Tage nach Störfallbeginn fährt das Personal den Reaktor herunter. Der Reaktor muss über längere Zeit getrocknet werden, mit radioaktiven Spaltprodukten Strontium und Tritium belastetes Kühlwasser tritt aus und verseucht den Reaktorboden und das darunterliegende Erdreich und Grundwasser.
if you look into the other comment you’ll see i posted a link with a map of all european npp’s and if you click on them you’ll see all recorded accidents at these power plants.
i’m also not trying to argue that nuclear is worse than coal, far from it evn. but the power plants we had were old and dangerous and in the age of cheap renewables it doesn’t make sense to build them anymore in europe
Since everyone mostly responded to the nuclear stuff, I am not very aware of a reopening or even extention of german coal mining. As far as I know the predefined end of germanys coal mining (at the very least surface coal mining) is still 2030 (unless the CDU decided to fuck that over as well).
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To me, your take is completely uninformed, so allow me to enlighten you. When Russia attacked Ukraine, oil prices spiked and conservative media were trying to cause a panic that Germany hadn’t enough natural gas to get through the winter. Tangent: The natural gas levels are much lower today than they ever were 2022, but because we now have a conservative government, conservative media doesn’t care. Anyway, because the start of the Ukraine war was such a volatile time and to assuage any fears, the last government decided to give the last 3 operational nuclear power plants a 6 month extension and to bring back coal power plants as backup. And that is what they ever where. A backup. And building nuclear power takes decades and costs billions. They help neither in the short-, nor long-term.
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Very much detailed and to the point. Thanks for taking your time against false information matey ❤️
Plus on top to the current topic of ever hotter summers: What do nuclear power plants help if they need to be shut down constantly b/c of too hot water temperatures in the rivers? (looks at France)
PV loses a bit of efficiency in heat, but is still very much operational.
That was 2023 to prevent an energy crisis triggered by the russian invasion in Ukraine and these coal plants (not mines!) were already shut down again.
And nuclear is not an alternative.
sry but german nuclear power plants were a mismanaged mess and their closure probably saved lives. all power plants along the rhine river leaked thousands of tobs of irradiated water into the environment, same goes for those at the neckar. those are the ones i know for a fact.
they were outdated. mismanaged and ticking time bombs and it was time to put them to rest, maybe not that quick but better than never.
building new power plants just doesn’t make sense because renewables are just WAYYYY cheaper in the long run aswell as the fact nobody wants to build or run a power plant. that’s just an afd and markus söder pipedream.
solar/wind is about 7ct/kwh after investments while nuclear fuel is at about 35ct/kwh
our renewable output is almost doubling every year despite the cdu government’s best efforts to turn back to coal because reiche is a board member of E.On.
Fuck germany but their nuclear exit was a net positive.
Do you actually have proof/a source for that?
https://www.global2000.at/karte-atomkraft-europa
That is a map of reactors in europe. What has that to do with your claim?
if you scroll through you’ll see a map with all european npp’s and their recorded incidents
Okay are the “power plants that leaked thousands of tons of irradiated water into the environment” on this map? Because I see none there.
Bekannte Vorfälle von Kernkraftwerken am Rhein :
Frankreich - Fessenheim
2018: Block 1: Berufungsgericht in Colmar bestätigt Verurteilung des Betreibers nach Klage von Umweltorganisationen: Nach Eindringen von 100.000 Liter Wasser am 28.2.15 und Ausfall wichtiger Geräte wurde das Leck repariert, aber wenige Tage trat neues Leck auf, wieder strömte Wasser in den Maschinenraum. Der Betreiber habe nicht ausreichend die Gründe für Störfall ermittelt.
Deutschland - Philippsburg [stillgelegt]
2002: Block 1: bei Reinigungsarbeiten gelangen 7.000 Liter radioaktiv verseuchtes Wasser in die Regenwasserkanalisation. 2004: erneut gelangen ca. 30 m³ radioaktiv verseuchtes Wasser in den Rhein. 2010: Block 2: nach demLösen eines Abdichtstopfens aus einer Kühlleitung laufen 280.000Liter radioaktives Wasser aus dem Brennelementebecken
Deutschland - Biblis [stillgelegt]
1987: Block A: Kühlmittelverlust, ein Ventil schließt nicht. Die Mannschaft hält 16 Stunden lang die Anzeige für defekt und erkennt erst danach den Störfall.
Deutschland - Jülich [stillgelegt]
1978: 27.000 Liter Wasser treten durch ein Leck in den heliumgekühlten Primärkreislauf ein, erst 6 Tage nach Störfallbeginn fährt das Personal den Reaktor herunter. Der Reaktor muss über längere Zeit getrocknet werden, mit radioaktiven Spaltprodukten Strontium und Tritium belastetes Kühlwasser tritt aus und verseucht den Reaktorboden und das darunterliegende Erdreich und Grundwasser.
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if you look into the other comment you’ll see i posted a link with a map of all european npp’s and if you click on them you’ll see all recorded accidents at these power plants.
i’m also not trying to argue that nuclear is worse than coal, far from it evn. but the power plants we had were old and dangerous and in the age of cheap renewables it doesn’t make sense to build them anymore in europe
Since everyone mostly responded to the nuclear stuff, I am not very aware of a reopening or even extention of german coal mining. As far as I know the predefined end of germanys coal mining (at the very least surface coal mining) is still 2030 (unless the CDU decided to fuck that over as well).