• SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world
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    28 days ago

    Giving everybody a self-driving car completely defeats the purpose. Human-driven cars spend about 23 hours of each day just sitting around. A car that can drive itself doesn’t need to spend any time being parked - it can provide another ride! Liberally assuming a self-driving car would need to spend a full half of its time (12 hours/day) charging or being serviced, that would still mean that replacing all cars with autonomous vehicles could reduce traffic volume by a theoretical limit of 12× (12 hours/day/vehicle vs. 1 hour/day/vehicle).

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      27 days ago

      you’re forgetting here that all people want to commute at the same time between 7am and 9am in the morning. so you can’t just operate 1 vehicle 24 hours around, you need the vehicles for these two hours especially and then some in the afternoon.

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        27 days ago

        Elimination of personal vehicles would make public transit more attractive; with the previously foregone conclusion that one must own a vehicle gone, the choice is between a few dollars for transit, or several times more than that for a private vehicle. How many people currently choose to take an Uber or Lyft to and from work?

        Also, it’s certainly not all people, nor all commuters.

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      28 days ago

      Get rid of privately owned cars and you might be on to something. If the state owned a fleet of self driving cars you could rent at the car library, that would probably be better than everyone having their own car they park somewhere most of the time.

      Building walkable living spaces with mass transit would be better for more people environmentally, economically, health-wise, socially…

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        28 days ago

        Well, nobody’s gonna be able to afford an actual working autonomous vehicle, and it won’t make sense either economically or operationally to privately own one even if they could.

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        28 days ago

        If the state owned a fleet of self driving cars you could rent at the car library

        Until Trump or equivalent decides you’re not allowed to leave the city because you posted some nasty things about him.

        Forcing non-private ownership means everyone is at the mercy of the state allowing them to borrow transport. How long before the Gays aren’t allowed to drive? Women can’t drive? That’s the future your espousing.

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      28 days ago

      Giving everybody a self-driving car completely defeats the purpose.

      Not really, battery-electric cars can double as your household battery bank.

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        28 days ago

        It seems a lot cheaper to buy a battery bank than to spend a sizeable fraction of a million dollars for the rest of the AV and the operational costs.