tl;dr, they waited for the opposition to go on holiday and then pushed through a special resolution that required them to vote no in order to not pass. It’s shady as fuck.
It’s almost like our institutions and political class across the developed world are acting on behalf of capital and not in the peoples best interests…
Maybe that’s why they all collude with surveillance capitalism to violate our civil rights wholesale, and expand the surveillance state…
These are not the actions of a government “for the people”. These are the actions of criminally corrupt tyrants and traitors who should spend the rest of their lives in prison. The fact that they won’t should tell you everything you need to know about our “democracies”.
They had this surveillance, on a far greater scale, in communist countries like East Germany so it isn’t just about capitalism.
We don’t live in East Germany. We’re supposed to be living in democracies where our governments act in our best interests, and our rights are not for sale.
They had this surveillance, on a far greater scale
This is a mentally-ill level of ignorance. The KGB or Gestapo couldn’t even dream of the surveillance state Western capitalism has already built. They didn’t have tracking devices and microphones in the pockets of most adults on Earth. They didn’t capture millions of data points about all of their daily lives. They didn’t have billion dollar economies structured around the capture and sale of that data. They didn’t have the ability to flag dissidents or resistance autonomously, in real-time based on statistical modeling, or the capability to execute everyone they flag as opposition with cheap fully-autonomous drones. This is called turnkey-totalitarianism. All the tools have already been built. The only thing a tyrant needs to do is turn the key.
Either educate yourself about the world or keep your ignorance to yourself. Your opinion is currently worthless.
How does this help the capital? Those big tech companies have the data already and mine it for ad profiling and teaching AI. I’m not saying it isn’t, I would only like to hear your thoughts.
This is just one small step in the multi-decade implementation of mass surveillance.
“We’re already scanning all of your files for X. Why don’t we also scan them for all other crimes, A-Z?”
Statistical models and inference are mathematically guaranteed to have false positives and false negatives. False positives in this context mean entirely innocent people will be flagged and scrutinised, and have their private data shared, or potentially be investigated, when they have done nothing wrong at all. If fingerprints are one in a 1 million, and you have a database of a billion people, on average you’ll implicate ~1000 innocent people every time you run a print. That’s how you end up with millions of people on a watchlist. It’s criminally incompetent, at best.
You shouldn’t forget about selective enforcement.
Huh, that sounds like there’s some next system level evaluation that can repel it then
Well, my country’s legislative bunch has already said, that mass surveilance is against our constitution. I doubt Finland is the only country in EU to have that, so even if it passes fully, it is going to have some big hurdles ahead.
Possibly, but Finland still uses Palantir tech, so who knows if they’re following the constitution
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They all are, but also the EU has at least some safeguards in that multiple level federation system, as fake as it is overall
Taking a lesson in underhanded politics from US republicans. Pass shitty legislation at midnight when nobody else is around to disagree with them.
That’s not exactly correct. Actually the parliament voted on the request for urgent procedure (last Tuesday), so technically everyone who voted for the “urgent” procedure, voted for Chat Control V1.0.
And from what I could see, it was soc.dems, centers and conservatives who voted for that.
„The Council then sent the file back to Parliament at the beginning of the vacation season, where it was difficult to secure the necessary majority to dismiss it again“
What are we paying these people for? It should be obvious that it is Part of your duties being a member of parliament to monitor and act on stuff while being on vacation.
When I have vacation, I don’t want to be bothered with work related stuff either. I understand their want for a vacation, and they should not be blamed. The system that allows this chicanery is at fault here.
The total vote count required shouldn’t change if someone’s on vacation.
If they can’t vote remotely or by proxy, then the vote should either be delayed or extended, or anyone absent should be listed as not present or abstained. Either way the percentage of “yes” votes shouldn’t be any different from if every seat was in attendance.
Never heard of a parliament where abstain = no. Is that common?
If there’s a threshold needed for a “yes” vote then it’s functionally the same, even without counting as one. I’m just saying that threshold shouldn’t go down just because someone is on vacation.
FFS this isn’t some factory job where you punch in and out. If you can’t have your precious vacation interrupted for the sake of the nation you should find another job
The difference beeing is that.they do not have attendence requirements, which i am sure you do at your work, can’t just not show up.
The neat part is the system doesn’t allow it but the person that had to reject it was for this so she didnt
To be fair, Europe is all about their summer vacations.
How long until they say “people are using E2E to get around this. We need to ban/include E2E now”?
“E2E is just for pedos” incoming.
Me and my friend already set up a Matrix server with E2E. I’m hoping Fluxer will get E2E.
So the EU made everyone put endless cookie acceptance popups up in the name of “privacy” then turns around and flagrantly violates it in the name of “protecting children”. In the US the only thing that isn’t done in the name of “protecting children” is gun regulation.
The EU didn’t make anyone do that, site that have no business recoding the information put those up as a dark pattern to try and force people into accepting the terms so they can claim informed consent to the tracking. It’s malicious compliance, they could just not collect that tracking data that isn’t required to provide the service.
You got it a little backwards. Websites were already collecting that data and adding those cookies, the EU regulation forced them to tell you about it and let you opt-out.
You are right, they were already doing that but the annoying popups aren’t because of the EU, the sites could just not set cookies to collect data they didn’t need to provide the service by default and not nag you constantly to let them have their way. It’s operation “wear them down” .
Well of course, but my point was the data collection and tracking and all that other stuff was already happening in full volume prior to the regulation. The nagging to re-enable is a dark pattern of course, but prior to that the only recourse we had was to disable all cookies at the browser level.
To that point, as much as cookies have been associated with tracking and ads and such, they have/had a very important purpose in providing services on a website. It’s how the “remember me” button works for instance, or to store your preferences without making an account, among other things.
However, because a browser can’t really easily determine what a cookie is used for since it’s basically just an ID and a (usually) encrypted data blob, the only guaranteed way for it to block tracking cookies is to block all cookies. The EU regulation IMO is a “good” regulation, with the inevitable malicious compliance of corporations.
Wow the EU pulls ahead of the US in the competition to become the most comprehensive surveillance state
The more I hear about The Pirate Party the more I like them.
Are there any Pirate Party representatives in Denmark?
Manfred Weber of the CSU (EVP chairman) introduced this personally. Roberta Metsola helped him through the procedure.
Remember these names, make sure they lose their jobs.
So what does this mean? Do we have to use China-based chat apps to avoid domestic spying? I assume US companies (including Whatsapp) will bend to the ruling
Democracy manifest.
What is the charge? Eating a meal? A succulent Chinese meal?
Democracy is fundamentally incompatible with capitalism.
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You mean the purpose and the means are the same?
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