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      This isn’t about Elon. While it’s about one of his companies, Elon has little to nothing to do with this story.

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        Yes. It is not about Elon. It’s about the doomed nature of BEVs. Any technology that can give you a £17,000 repair bill just because it is wet means it is not a viable technology. Though it’s sad that people have been fooled by Elon’s bullshit about his companies. Which is why stories like this come up. Ultimately, BEVs are dead-end and this cannot be changed. It will be a matter of when BEVs are abandoned in the marketplace, not if.

        EDIT: Again, no amount of lying to yourself will change reality. BEVs are a dead-end and always will be.

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          So a poorly made electric vehicle by one manufacturer means that the entire field is non-viable?

          EDIT: Lmao, check out this guy’s posts, every single comment is shitting on battery EVs and shilling hydrogen vehicles. I don’t know how much you’re being paid to shill for the fossil fuel industry, but I hope it’s enough.

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            Lmao, check out this guy’s posts, every single comment is shitting on battery EVs and shilling hydrogen vehicles. I don’t know how much you’re being paid to shill for the fossil fuel industry, but I hope it’s enough.

            How many people are shilling for the BEV industry or Tesla? It is the biggest greenwashing scam of our time. Someone has to say something. You have reality reversed. It’s the pro-BEV people that are shills.

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            All BEVs from everyone will have the same issues.

            EDIT: Lying to yourself will not change reality. A BEV will never be a low-resource type of vehicles. It is a matter of when, not if, it falls apart as an idea.

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              Lying to yourself will not change reality. A cellphone will never be a low-resource type of communication. It is a matter of when, not if, it falls apart as an idea.

              Lying to yourself will not change reality. A personal computer will never be a low-resource type of device. It is a matter of when, not if, it falls apart as an idea.

              That is you, that is how deranged you sound.

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                A cellphone is not a car. Nor is a personal computer.

                A BEV has fundamental problems that cannot be solved. It’s worth noting that they are an older idea than combustion cars. It is in many ways, totally obsolete.

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                  Ok I stand corrected, you definitely are deranged or you are literally a paid shill of Exxon, which in this case would be the same thing.

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                    So when Joe Biden announces a huge pro-hydrogen program, is he a paid shill of Exxon?

                    Honestly, some of you guys are so deluded, it goes beyond projecting. You guys are seriously brainwashed by Musk. Some of you will sell out the entirety of the climate change movement if it means validation by a Fascist.

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                  Funny, cause an combustion car has a lot bigger issues that can not be fixed and need to be addressed right now.

                  Which shares the same problems with hydrogen cars, btw.

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                    FCEVs don’t have the problem of combustion cars. It is the natural follow-up to them.

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            A fuel cell stack has a few hundred dollars worth of platinum. The rest is just conventional materials like steel or plastic. Not very expensive. The whole stack is very small too, weighing just 50kg for an average car.

            So with mass production, it will be less than a combustion engine. You’ll get more savings by getting rid of the transmission and catalytic convertor. You pencil out the cost, and going with “first principles,” the whole vehicle will be the same or less than a conventional ICE car.

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          I don’t think the people buying Teslas are doing so because they believe them to be an economically viable option. They’re buying Teslas for the brand recognition/design more than anything.