Wikipedia will tell you that it is pain and unpleasantness. But that is too shallow. That isn’t true suffering. To me, suffering is when thoughts start causing physical pain. When the prospect of death seems like the only escape. But sometimes not even death can stop suffering.

I’ve been thinking about this a lot. What is the nature, the purpose of suffering. And then, it hit me. Maybe the lack of a purpose is the problem? It is easier to take pain when we know when it will end, or when we know that it is a pain of healing. But when it is a destructive pain, or suffering without a purpose, then it is true suffering. Pain for the sake of pain, where nothing is gained and everything is lost. Is that the nature of suffering? I don’t know. I can’t say that I experienced true suffering on that level. I don’t think anyone has. Or at least they haven’t lived long enough to tell the tale.

Is being stuck upside down in a cave until you slowly die, knowing nobody will come to rescue you true suffering? Is being a victim of a terrible crime and not being able to ever get justice for it true suffering? Or is it something simpler?

I was never good with words. So please don’t blame me if I can’t fully define it. That is exactly why I ask this question. I invite you all to discuss the essence and the nature of suffering with me. I wish to understand.

DISCLAIMER: This is a philosophical question. Nothing more, nothing less.

  • gigastasio@sh.itjust.works
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    9 days ago

    I define suffering the same way I define art:

    • I know it when I see it
    • I can look at someone’s suffering, call it suffering, while some pretentious jagoff next to me goes, “Pff, that’s not suffering. You clearly don’t know what real suffering is.”
    • Some suffering I like, some suffering I don’t.
    • I had to go to school to learn about other people’s suffering.
    • Some of us hide our suffering and some display it
    • Some people use their suffering to make money
    • I tried to show other people my suffering and they laughed at it. So I don’t show people my suffering anymore.
    • Young_Gilgamesh@lemmy.worldOP
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      9 days ago

      So is it subjective in your view?

      And could you explain what you mean by “Some suffering I like, some suffering I don’t.”? I don’t exactly understand that one?