• ikidd@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    When I was a manager, I did my own damn firing. Not because I enjoyed it, but because the people that worked for me were people, not an employee number. It was genuinely hard, so I damn well thought about it before I shitcanned them.

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    Last time I got laid off I got the email that I was being laid off three hours before my call with HR. Headquarters was on Eastern Time, so the layoff emails went out around 9am ET, but I was on a team that was mostly on Pacific Time so my call was after 9am PT. And I’m on Atlantic, so this was 10am and 1pm, and I was off that day. The clueless HR person offered me a moment to collect myself at the start of the call, as if I hadn’t already had plenty of time for that. Just one big annoyance.

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      “Perfect” isn’t the first thing that comes to mind unless it’s “perfectly off-putting”.

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        Hard disagree. She’s such a lovely person and beautiful smiler. The personality enhances the smile a lot for me, I think.

        But I guess in this context, a better choice of word would be “symmetrical”, for the purpose of describing the “AI” quality? 😅

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          It’s nothing against her personally, but unfortunately my brain is a visual indexer par excellence, I see her face and this pops in my mind instantly:

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    Thanking an employee for joining before termination sounds insincere and odd. I understand it’s to appear polite however I don’t think it should be best practice.

    A more appropriate opening would be “Hi X, I have some difficult news to share.”

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      HR are professional gaslighters, that is literally their job.

      Human Resources.

      You, the human, a resource, for a company.

      Their job is to manage and modify your behavior, as a resource, cattle with feelings.

      …they are literally professional gaslighters.

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          18 hours ago

          I am writing to you today to inform you that I do not care.

          Have a great day! =D

          • When we all sing together, we sing in harmony
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            Hello sp3ctr4l,

            We do not appreciate your tone as it doesn’t fit in our culture of respecting and hailing to corporate.

            We will be writing you up for insubordination, violating our respect in the work place policy, and poor performance.

            Here is your improvement action report.

            Regards,

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              18 hours ago

              I hope this message finds you well,

              … as that would be quite something, given that your office apparently … burst into flames, not too long ago?

              You ok?

              As per our previous emails, I’ll be reporting that to the city fire marshall as well, as you really would think a sprinkler system of some kind would have tiggered.

              I’m sure you don’t still keep that pannini press in your office, so my only guess would be some kind of electrical outlet or breaker is not up to code.

              Anyway, I’ll look over the IAR when I get back from the vacation I am currently on.

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                proceeds to call company lawyers

                Hey sp3ctr4l, Please sit down. I have some difficult news to share. Unfortunately the company has decided to end your employment effective today. You will get your record of employment by email and enclosed is your package. Please sign and return as soon as possible.

                Security will escort you out.

                Bye.

                proceeds to add sp3ctr4l onto the unsuitable candidates list

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                  3 hours ago

                  [Auto-Reply]:

                  Hey, appreciate the message, I’m currently on vacation.

                  I’ll respond as soon as I return to work!

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      I have had to do the termination not that long ago, it’s not that great for the other side either, thanking them for joining and not avoiding the meeting is mot insincere, it would be way more awkward if the employee would be avoiding the meeting

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        No one cares that you are politely ruining their life.

        I’ve been fired into direct homelessness, and I made that HR cry.

        Everyone should do that.

        You need to feel that bad.

        Otherwise, we will just keep going on with this inhuman system.

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          Yes, all interactions are the same, and there is no place for nuance, how could I forget this, apologies

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              Not sure if you are aware, but there are countries that exist outside the US. Were you by any chance terminated from your job as a Geography teacher? i can see why

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    The HR person will get fired if the facial recognition sees her not smiling like that.

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      Have you not had a job, or somehow they’ve never been allowed to fire you? I’m not playing dumb, I may actually be dumb - I just can’t imagine what job doesn’t carry a risk of being fired (except maybe tenured professor)?

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        I’ve been employed for a good 25 years of my life. I’ve either, been too valuable to fire and have had too much knowledge of where the bodies are buried, worked for myself, or worked for my parents company. I did have one normal job once a few years back, for 90 days and then it was a mutual resignation. Ive never really had a boss I’ve ever feared, ive always been on their “team”.

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          Right on! I get this energy as well. Never had anyone “manage” me. Make my own schedule and I project deep roots into everything I touch and improve cutting me loose would be extremely painful.

          I did work somewhere where the COO wanted to can my ass. But they were constantly told I was way to valuable by the rest of the c-suite and cool it. Their problem was I wouldn’t kiss their ass and called them out on dumb ideas.

          I show up to do work, not play politics. Turns out being good at what you do pays off sometimes.

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          Yeah, places with labour law make sure firing people is difficult. Bosses will bitch around but at least everyone have one less stress of not having food on the table.