Lemmy’s continued lack of basic moderation tools with zero indication that is going to change anytime soon is the biggest problem by far. It is also still a very opaque process to join and participate for the average user and standing up your own instance is no small feat, complete with legal minefields that many don’t even realize they are walking in to. No matter how you were engaging with the fediverse, there are huge hurdles. Even being a lurker is difficult.
I am not knocking the people who dedicate their time to making it work. Every second they give is voluntary and a service for us. But it doesn’t change the fact that we just don’t have what we need. Mastodon is the only side of the fediverse that is ready for prime time, and that’s borderline/has a lot of caveats.
The whole thing is very young - Lemmy is not ready for prime time, but compared to a just a few months ago it has come a long long way. I think it has a healthy user base, and just like Mastodon it will mature gradually as long as the users remain.
It will be interesting to see how groups are integrated in Mastodon - hopefully it’ll motivate more cross-fertilization between Mastodon and the Threadiverse. :)
Also, I find Pixlfed to be very much ready for prime time! Peertube as well if you’re a content creator interested in hosting your own content, but that’s a more narrow use case.
I only joined during the (modest) Reddit migration in June but I don’t think a single new moderation tool has been added since then despite all the momentum. Lots of apps (most of which have already been abandoned) though so that’s at least something.
That’s frustrating. I think Kbin recently improved it’s moderation tools quite a lot, but I’m not involved enough to really have an overview.
I checked out Lemmy for the first time ten months ago from a thread that was shared on Mastodon, it was a completely different product back then. I agree moderation tools need to be a high priority, but there’s little doubt the platform has improved a lot over the last year. It saw a sudden growth that nobody was really prepared for, and all in all I think it is impressive how well it has gone so far. Moderation still seems to be better than certain commercial platforms. ;)
I definitely think the moderation itself is better because there is a stronger pool of people doing it, but we are just so severely limited by what we are able to do. For starters, there are no tiers of moderators. You don’t have like a “prime“ and then lower levels with different tiers of access. You basically have to give total control to another moderator, which is a huge risk.
I agree. I’m a " reddit refugee " so to speak but I think people here are jumping the gun with their expectations. Of course, Lemmy is not brand new but the actual influx of users seems to be pretty recent.
It took years for reddit to really become a more diverse site that actually appealed to a wider demographic then just tech nerds and communists, which from what I can understand is more or less what lemmy was comprised of before the huge uptick in migration here lol.
Anyways I do think people need to cool it with their expectations. More and better moderating tools being needed is in no way limited to just Lemmy either. Mastodon also has problems with admins fucking with whole instances, or just outright disappearing and leaving the ship without a captain.
Its the teething stages of the fediverse. For what its worth, its fucking amazing thats something as decentralized is getting this much play anyways.
The more people that come along and the more diversity in communties will eventually make the fediverse a better and more useful place then reddit was. It will take some time though, and a much large user base. It will come though.
Don’t forget to comment if you want to get thrown out of a window too
Defederade? No
Defenestrate!
Awesome! I didn’t see that coming but it’s perfect
Umm sweaty you didn’t type the three paragraph minimum expressing how capitalism is the reason that you stubbed your toe last night and I also noticed you didn’t go out of your way to clarify that the Uygher Genocide is fictional western propaganda so unfortunate I’m going to downvote you
I see more comments like this than I do instances of the behavior people like you describe.
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We’ve got like 0.5% of the users. I’m fine with the low hanging fruit till we grow further.
I’m commenting to boost engagement!
Honestly? So much politics around that I don’t even try to comment on lots of stuff. Fuck getting downvoted for an opinion doesn’t match with whatever americans believe in now.
downvotes don’t really matter though it’s not like we have karma like on reddit or anything
It’s not that the others don’t have screenshots of each other. Where is that meme that in 1999, there where thousands of pages, now there are 3 and each is full of screenshots of the others?
Reddit content also suffered intensively. Loose loose fir everyone.
Yeah, I mean, it’s only worth it for this to grow, if it’s quality content. I do wish we’d have more niche communities, but I’m fine for what we have now.
The only original content I can think about right now is polandball. Other than that, reddit did and is doing the same.
Honestly, I either can’t find a group that’s alive, or I see duplicates of the same posts in many groups. Coordinating content and having a searchable master index of groups would make it easier to use.
Exactly
