• Zephorah@discuss.online
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    8 days ago

    That’s not a bad idea. It is addictive. Tax it like alcohol and tobacco. I’ve watched a subset of diabetics scream that they need sugar no matter what healthcare tries to say about it. Tears. More often, anger and spiteful overconsumption in reaction to being told no. (A subset, not all.)

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      8 days ago

      I was one of those people who knew my lifestyle was unhealthy, and turning it around was always just one week away. The diagnosis of type II felt like a loss of agency. Like it was no longer my choice to cut back on, or to cut out sugar.

      Once the initial shock of diagnosis and grief over all the foods I’d lost settled down, the truth was clear. I had made the choice. The choice to open every single one of those sodas, the choice to go with convenience over health. The choice to kick the can down the road, and I still had the choice to diet, or die slowly.

      Not gonna lie and say my diet is perfect now but, according to my NP, my labs paint the picture of someone successfully managing diabetes. I know I still have some work to do though.

    • brb@sh.itjust.works
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      8 days ago

      That’s what we are doing in Finland. Sugar free drinks are taxed at 20c/l but other drinks can go up to 59c/l depending on the sugar amount

      Just checked prices from one grocery store and coke zero 24-pack is 15.50€ while the regular one is 19.50€

      • ThanksForAllTheFish@sh.itjust.works
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        7 days ago

        Overall, Coke is most affordable compared with minimum wage in England, especially when Coke Zero is on offer, then Helsinki; in the US it takes the most minimum-wage work to buy a litre, and because regular and sugar-free cost exactly the same, there’s no price incentive at all to choose the sugar-free one.

        In England for a 24 pack (330ml?), sugar is £15 (€17.5, $20 USD), sugar free is £12 with a deal for £8.50 (€10, $11.5 USD), no deals for the sugar one! £12.71 is minimum wage here (€14.86, $17.21 USD). In US Walmart I see 24 pack of sugar and non sugar for $15.37 USD (12 OZx24) and US minimum wage is $7.25 USD (£5.40, €6.30).

        Location and drink EUR per litre GBP per litre USD per litre
        Helsinki — regular Coke €2.46 £2.10 $2.85
        Helsinki — Coke Zero €1.96 £1.67 $2.26
        England — regular Coke €2.22 £1.89 $2.56
        England — Coke Zero, normal price €1.77 £1.52 $2.05
        England — Coke Zero, offer price €1.26 £1.07 $1.45
        US Walmart — regular Coke €1.56 £1.33 $1.80
        US Walmart — Coke Zero €1.56 £1.33 $1.80
        Location and wage benchmark EUR/hour GBP/hour USD/hour Work for 1 litre of regular Coke Work for 1 litre of Coke Zero
        Helsinki — first-year supermarket minimum €11.61 £9.92 $13.43 12.7 minutes 10.1 minutes
        UK — adult minimum wage €14.87 £12.71 $17.20 8.9 minutes 7.2 minutes normally; 5.1 on offer
        US — federal minimum wage €6.27 £5.36 $7.25 14.9 minutes 14.9 minutes