• ayyy@sh.itjust.works
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    25 minutes ago

    This clickbait bullshit should not be tolerated. The ingredient name in question is only one word, instead of the stupid sentence they used.

    It’s xylitol. Shame on every shitbag sellout that decided to not just say that in the headline.

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      5 minutes ago

      Fr. Clickbait is bullshit. I worked at whole foods when Xylitol was first making its way onto the market as a “natural” 0 cal sweetener and I was always skeptical of it and never intentionally bought anything with it in it. I can’t say I’m surprised to see this.

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        1 minute ago

        It’s good to be skeptical, but please don’t give this particular article toooo much weight. It’s not a real experiment, it’s just just an observation of correlation which doesn’t prove anything at all.

        This website can show you plenty of other things that are extremely highly correlated. It really doesn’t prove anything.

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    5 hours ago

    So glad we let companies sell us whatever poison hasn’t had enough research yet to show it’s unsafe…

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    “In this observational work, however, it appears that xylitol has a negative long-term effect on cardiovascular events in the general population. As with all observational studies, causalities are difficult to infer, but this work shows that further studies are mandated into this societally important topic.”

    This is important, because the outcome of the study is: we need more studies. It is not that xylitol has been shown to be dangerous, a jump so many comments have made.

    There was an observed effect in people who had “high blood levels of xylitol”. But there were few if any other controls:

    The researchers also highlighted that the association was independent of underlying factors such as body mass index, hypertension, diabetes and lipid levels, which might predispose people to low-calorie products.

    It’s been known for a while that extremely high levels of xylitol can act as a diuretic, but that’s true of a lot of other things, too. That’s also not relevant here. It’s important to not jump to unwarranted conclusions until more proper studies are conducted.

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      8 hours ago

      Just pointing out the obvious. A shill for xylitol (tobacco, diesel cars, coal power plants, Israel . . ) would say the exact same thing - “more study is needed . . .”

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    5 hours ago

    I was thinking a while ago that I missed chewing gum all the time and now I realize I may want to not pick up that habit again.

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      Xylitol is fantastic for dental health.

      Im assuming theres some confounding factor like “people who chew a lot of gum and eat a lot of artificial sweeteners are also people who just eat a lot in general or have history of obesity/type 2 diabetes” or something until a dedicated study proves otherwise.

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    12 hours ago

    It is important to note that this was an observational study, meaning it can only show an association between higher xylitol levels and cardiovascular events, rather than proving that xylitol directly caused them, and further research is needed. But it is not a green light to have more sugar instead, as we still need to reduce our free sugar intake

    Correlation vs Causation caveat is strongly needed here

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    10 hours ago

    What sort of diet leads to high blood levels? My guess is the xylitol in my mouthwash or toothpaste that I spit out isn’t causing a high level in the blood and still benefits my oral health. Any studies on that?

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    13 hours ago

    Heard this about Erithrytol as well. Not sure if that one is as confirmed. Cove Soda uses it, and I’m reluctant even though it’s tasty and Canadian.

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      10 hours ago

      More like ban it outright. Anything that is generally seen as safe, but with some caveats, gets RFK jr. to foam at the mouth about how dangerous it is.

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    11 hours ago

    I complain to my wife all the time that sugar alcohols shoild be banned from food products.

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      10 hours ago

      I swear I’ve seen companies advertise “no artificial sweeteners” while using things like stevia or monk fruit. Maybe I’m misremembering, but it’s so irritating that you just have to know an increasingly long list of sweeteners to check for.

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        9 hours ago

        Well yeah because stevia and monk fruit aren’t artificial, they’re natural alternatives to sweeteners.

        I’m not making health claims but they do grow in the ground hence non artificial.

        But yeah I don’t really like them, so I would wish it would say low sugar, and also no added sweetener alternatives or something, since that’s what I like and I will see low sugar and then buy it and it’s sickly sweet with the fake ones…

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          Whole leaf stevia is a little bitter, but I haven’t seen any studies on any of it. I haven’t looked, either, since I’ve cut out all of it, unless I’m out somewhere and can’t avoid it (questionable water sources, for example).

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            When they started using it in yogurt it almost made me vomit every time I bought it without checking. Didn’t take many times to learn, but too damn long. Everyone I’ve asked never had the same problem though. Turns out stevia just tastes heinous to me so… hooray?

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          8 hours ago

          “No added sugar” but then the ingredients list extra juice concentrate is another pet peeve.

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    8 hours ago

    Xylitol? The sweetener that kills pets? I’m shocked, Shocked I say!