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1Password faced immediate backlash from customers this week over a $300,000 pledge in support of a Linux distro created by David Heinemeier Hansson, who has regularly published overtly racist blog posts that include comments calling for deportation of ethnic minorities in Europe. The popular password manager is now a “distinguished corporate patron” of Omacom, the nonprofit foundation that oversees a popular Linux distribution known as Omarchy.
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Why does this shit distro deserve all this funding and support? There’s many better options doing a lot more for the ecosystem yet this gets the attention. It’s don’t understand.
It uses AI to fix issues and errors. And billionaires need people to use AI as much as possible.
But seriously what is the actual reason for the donation
Billionaires like racists?
Per @GreenBeard@lemmy.ca’s comment
I think we all know why. Whether having money causes racism, or it just so happens that racists are the ones with the money and they’re good at keeping it “In The Family” so to speak is kind of tangential and academic. It’s the hateful bigots that have the cash to fund big things, so if you want funding, it pays to be trashy.
They aren’t just racist, They also hate the poors and basically anyone that isn’t them.
I agree, but I suggest you direct your replies directly to the source comment. I’m just the messenger here.
I think we all know why. Whether having money causes racism, or it just so happens that racists are the ones with the money and they’re good at keeping it “In The Family” so to speak is kind of tangential and academic. It’s the hateful bigots that have the cash to fund big things, so if you want funding, it pays to be trashy.
This is what I think it is.
Very seldom is something funded that “deserves” it. The answer is that its’ creator (DHH) is very wealthy and connected.
1Password does not endorse hateful, dehumanizing, or exclusionary views, including those shared publicly by DHH.
Except… ya just did. Big 'ol cashy money endorsement.
Or did you forget about that already? Because we didn’t.
Art / artist.
“popular Linux distribution known as Omarchy.”
I’ve literally never heard of it.
I’ve seen a handful of videos about it recently that have been pushed into my algorithm. There’s definitely a campaign to get it out to influencers. Never heard of it prior to this week.
It’s just a fork of Arch, with tiling, that’s been slop coded with AI. Something anyone could recreate without AI in a couple hours if they’re familiar with Arch.
But could you recreate it with $30mil and AI‽
/s
Touche.
It’s yet another distro being shilled by god knows who on YouTube and other social media.
The fact that it’s being pushed so hard without anything of note about it is already suspicious to me.
I only know of it because I was on Distro Watch this week looking for top mention distros I never heard of. The mentions position is likely because of this donation. lol
yeah this is like a bunch of other internet things where I kinda hate it even seeing it. for me its not a thing of interest.
I’ve heard the name but have not spent the time to find out what it is. I thought it was some immutable distro. I think the same about bazzite and catchy (sp?) which are other distros I see mentioned from time to time and believe are immutable and flatpak-y and that’s all I know. I realise I’m just one data point but I never see a lot about these sorts of distros in my general browsing.
Oh well if you’ve never personally heard of it, it must not be popular, right?
I’m not OP but yeah, basically. People who are passionate about a specific topic will know what’s up in that area.
I can name half a dozen of the most popular Arch-based distros off the top of my head because… they’re actually well-known. Meaning they’ve been around for years, I’ve used several personally and can argue their pros and cons, and they feature prominently in objective lineups like the Steam Hardware Survey. Omarchy is none of these things.
Popular for Linux, not popular for Marvel movies.
Still not convinced it’s very popular.
It’s virtually unknown in the Linux world too. It’s literally something they made up overnight and are trying to astroturf.
I’d say “what a time to be alive” to see the day someone considers it worth astroturfing a Linux distro, except there’s probably some nefarious shit behind it.
Nonetheless, it seems the company has sacrificed a moral position for a “mission-driven” position. In the same message to staff, Faugno says “the scale and growth of [Omarchy’s] use among our customers is significant - Omarchy has grown to be the second most used Linux distribution among 1Password users."
I didn’t know Omarchy existed until, like, yesterday, so this is surprising. Do 1Password users just tend not to use Linux, so second place isn’t many users?
I feel like this has to be made up, downstream repack distros almost never show up on the top 10 usage stats. You will always see Ubuntu way ahead of Kubuntu.
Not to mention 1Password is a pretty popular enterprise app and I have yet to see some insane sysadmin actually roll with arch as their distro of choice. Most are probably on RHEL or some other enterprise derivative.
It’s probably not made up because 1Password is pre-installed and bound to a hotkey in Omarchy. Linux users making informed decisions about what to use for password management probably don’t pick 1Password most of the time due to its terrible security record.
Ah didn’t realize it came preinstalled lol.
spoiler
Prepackaged “superior” arch distro and the best they could come up with was 1Password? seriously lol?
1Password is the best they could come up with when “best” is measured in dollars contributed.
That piece of information seems like key context. 1Password didn’t just give money simply because they like the product. More or less, it’s product placement in return for funding.
I’m on the fence if that’s better or worse.
I said somewhere else that giving money to a distro won’t even have an ROI, but I didn’t know about this. If the distro is promoting their product that’s a whole other thing.
Terrible security record?
Of the items listed in your link, only the second one seems problematic, in that I wish they had discovered the (non-password but still privacy related) issues first. Even that section acknowledges all of the issues are fixed. The only section that makes it sound like there is still a problem is the last one, which states that version X still contains the vulnerabilities, but in reality that’s just how versions work. Patching a vulnerability creates a new version.
Is there ANY record of passwords being leaked from 1password because of their own lack of security??
lol what. 1Password literally has one of the best security records out there. They’re the ones actually inventing new more secure ways of doing things. The fact that those are all of the issues over the years and they’re one of the most popular pw managers on the planet is pretty indicative of how strong their security actually is. And they’ve never had a password breach, unlike lastpass.
They are nonfree.
I haven’t checked but I would guess that 1password comes pre-installed in Oligarchy and they’re counting every user that loads the client as a “user.”
I love the Oligarchy typo
Probably because Omarchy is preinstalling 1password.
Isn’t that a commercial product for which great open source alternatives exist? What kind of distro does that?
And don’t they also preinstall Basecamp, DHH’s own company’s product?
Maybe it’s all just a vehicle for product placement.
What kind of distro does that?
One that does not care at all about having maintaining a sane and open ecosystem. Where there’s money to make, they will prey down quickly. Now that people are somewhat convinced that Linux based systems can work and actually attract the general public, a whole new market is ripe for reaping.
“popular distribution”? Omarchy is neither of those two words, is it?
How the fuck is Omarchy “popular”? I’ve been on Linux going on a decade, give or take, and I first knew about it when someone here in Lemmy mentioned that Dell and some other shit companies were proton a few millions on it.
It’s popular to a lot of the non Foss tech job devs that want to try Linux after mostly using macOS for Dev work. It comes with keybinds they are familiar woth has a pretty UI by default and is arch base. They probably work for companies that are also right wing so it’s something they don’t care about as much as people in alignment with the Foss ideology.
Compared to today’s mask off fascism in the states the guy behind Omarchy is pretty tame and probably less mask off evil than the people they work for
And is being promoted by other fascists - Lex Fridman - and youtube sloppers like Primeagen. All channels highly consumed by non-techs or techs that follow the hype
To me it isn’t pretty, just kitsch.
I’m so glad I switched to Bitwarden. Even without the whole extreme-right angle, the distro, that I’ve never heard of before today, seems like total slop.
Yeah but Bitwarden is forkable
So YT’s algorithm is pushing right wing racist distros?
Huh. Wonder who is paying to make that algorithm work that way.
And hoo boy, you should see the bearded influencer chuds pushing this slopfest.
Lex Fridman, The Primeagen and friends are also to blame
1Password says “Our contribution is made to the Omacom Foundation, not to an individual” but there are many instances of their VP of product praising DHH https://x.com/jmeller/status/1971530423030387081 https://x.com/jmeller/status/2094132068342964671
Why isn’t this in the article? That’s literally a journalist’s job to provide that kind of context.
Why I use KeyPass – which is FOSS – instead of entrusting everything to a privately-run paid website which can turn against everyone at anytime.
edit: to that wiseacre below, do you think it’s better to go back to passwords in a notepad? 🤣
KeePass is great, but it needs multi-user, granular permissions and conflict resolution on sync. Sharing with multiple simul users is like trying to work on stone tablets.
Yeah, it’s good for personal use, it’s indeed a reliable keyfob. But I believe there should be a version that works for your use case required for multiple users, and you can fork it then modify.
It’s funny you don’t think that could happen to them too. Such confidence.
You know keepass is a local keystore, right? There is no “them”.
Unless you’re the one literally writing the program. It is being developed by other people who at any point in time could have issues. Just saying not saying they do now but it can certainly happen.
Well you better not use any software ever then, never know what ‘can certainly happen’. Get a grip.
Its GPL licensed, there’ll be a dozen different forks before you know it.
there’ll be a dozen different forks before you know it.
Aren’t there already?
Yep. When I say “I use Keepass” what I actually mean is “I use KeepassXC, Macpass, KeepassDX, etc. depending on which OS I’m on at the time” and AFAIK none of those are actually made by the original Keepass developer.
The passwords are saved into a vault file. You can choose a different software that is capable of opening the vault. I use keepassXC for example. there’s some variety of programs that can open this filetype, on many different platforms.
You think if the developer bails out, the software will magically disappear from everywhere, leaving you with no way of recovery whatsoever?
Let’s say they decide to pull the plug. Everything you have that’s already running will keep running. Code can be forked (in fact with keepass, it already happened). Data can be exported after the fact. Other software can actually open keepass database file.
You really don’t see the difference between this and “the server stopped sending you your own data, oops”?
You can fork it
Why I never, such language…
… Do you ever check for contact poisons soaked into your undies?
1Password is a paid service. The money given to for the service can go to organizations the user doesn’t agree with.
KeePass is free.
How is it the same?
of Omacom, the nonprofit foundation that oversees a popular Linux distribution known as Omarchy.
popular?! According to whom?
All seven users.
From Omarchy’s site:
malleable OS for the age of agents. Where you can vibe your way through every alteration, tweak, and desire. Be the Omarch and command your agent!
Wtf
PSA please stop using Archive.Today https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Archive.today_guidance
I vaguely remember hearing about that, but when I searched the community to see what other people use the first link I found was archive.is. Replacing that archive doesn’t really seem to have taken off.
The backlash to 1Password’s funding should have been predictable
Managers don’t know shit
The worst part is, giving money to a Linux distro isn’t likely to have any real return on investment, so why is it even worth a risk of backlash?
Indeed. Maybe nazi?
It preinstalls their app.
Why does Omarchy even need this money when it’s run by a billionaire?
This song have just been sent to Arch or some Linux foundations.
Because there are multiple Linux options, once the commercial versions flood in, the most marketed will grab the biggest share of the uninformed populace. So obviously the billionaires want to wrestle control over it.
Thankfully it looks so unserious that it will not capture anyone except ‘windows/mac power users’.
So the majority of people.
Most people do not think of them as ‘windows power users’.
I wouldn’t have heard of Omarchy if not for the controversies of its creator. So yeah that is one way to become popular.
Controversy? Never.
Sick thing is, you can say the most outrageous shit, and since you have a direct pipeline to billions of people online, you’ll always find some fumb ducks to pay you.
Welcome to the post-MLM economy! You don’t even influence people, you just say what they want to hear, and they’ll influence others for you! Jesus christ.
