I mean, There’s also the more direct approach if one wants to give out bribes in return for votes… Remember this? Tell me more about how amazing and just the Western Democracy is.
It’s very different. One is “I will give YOU money if you vote for me” and the other is “I will give EVERYONE money if I win”. The main difference is that one is not discriminating against who people voted for. The first is buying votes, the second is a campaign similar to “I will retroactively lower taxes for this year if I win”, which I don’t think anyone would see as problematic but it’s exactly the same outcome as the one you’re finding problem with, i.e. give people money.
It’s a stupid campaign because anyone with half a brain understand that he’s not going to do it and that that money would have to come from someplace else, but it’s still a campaign promise similar to any other promise politicians make to ask you to vote for them.
Everything is legal when everyone let you write the rules.
Or ignore the rules that someone else wrote to prevent you from doing the thing.
Yes it is illegal for you to do that, as it would be for Trump. But no, Trumps proposed 5k checks to all adult citizens, as I understand it, is legal. I’m pretty disappointed in the other answers. A few relevant points.
- Remember the model for sending checks to folks: CARES. Both Biden and Trump have previously done this.
- Congress can legally amend and pass laws. Note that the law that makes bribing for votes illegal is not in the constitution, so it requires only the usual legal action to amend it.
- I note that the policy Trump proposed isn’t discriminatory on who you vote for; your hypothetical does. (I suspect this is irrelevant for the legality, but certainly helps the optics.)
Surely the best response the Democrats could say is “if we win the midterms we’ll use Trumps financial plans to give you all 5k”… Trump can hardly then criticise it, it takes away the advantage of the bribe and if they win the midterms they can then declare “it was all bollocks there is no trillion dollars left lieing around to hand out”
Turns out the president is above the law, and can only be impeached, given the rare condition that the opposition party has a supermajority in Congress, of course!
Presidential immunity only extends to official acts see here. That said, its so poorly defined as to be irrelevant at the moment.
Still, I suspect distributing checks from the federal government that was not appropriated by congress would very much fail to qualify.
This is what tips me over the edge, all in on maga now. I’m surely gonna collect the 5k from the dude famous for stiffing contractors and bankrupting casinos
I guess that heavily depends on jurisdiction.
Rule 5- No baiting or sealioning or promoting an agenda.
It is a very unfortunate situation, one that definitely affects 70 billion people. But please solve your own problems on your own. So far I’ve filtered out
/Trump/iand still about 30% of the posts are about him.There’s just one country who’s political problems are spammed all over. They should find their own communities.
Laws are as good as they are enforced. Look at speeding in a car. If you don’t get caught, if everyone else is doing it and the few cops around aren’t bothering to pull anyone over, it’s still illegal. Yet it doesn’t matter.
Or more comparable, someone of high importance is caught speeding, but when the cop sees who it is they let them go with a “warning”, i.e. do nothing. Still illegal, but okay for them to do apparently.
Yes.
And even worse, we’ve seen it done by other presidents in recent memory, like when Biden promised a $2000 COVID aid check if the Dems won Georgia, which they did, and then the amount shrank to $1400.
Biden wasn’t president at that time.
Totally man.
Wasn’t Biden out here promising $2000 checks. Nope. No sir-ee.
I don’t think you read your own article. Joe was already picked and he was referring to the runoffs. The actual situation was that Trump was promising the checks and then when he lost the Republicans blocked the funds for it as punishment for not electing him again. Biden supporting them and needed a majority to overcome the block. The first part of the checks was released under Trump still in December, but no more disbursement was being allowed by congress.
These stimulus checks were approved and backed by Trump but blocked by the Republican controlled Senate. Biden wasn’t offering them as a reward for voting a certain way. He was warning that if those seats were lost Republicans would block the checks. Trump was pushing for these checks publicly
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That article was from Jan 5, 2021.
