This is nothing new. Liberals have always done this throughout history. They put all the blame on individuals to cover up the root cause of these constantly reoccuring wars and genocides.

Netanyahu isn’t the problem.

Israel is. The West is. Imperialism is. Capitalism is.

By: @commie______central

Source: https://www.instagram.com/p/DdQhoDho7R1/

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    When you thought Netanyahu is the problem, but then check other Israeli political parties, and turns out he’s among the least extreme. And has better approval ratings than Hitler had towards the end of the war.

    Even Gadi Eisenkot - Israel’s most likely next prime minister, whose party is apparently centrist - says any plans of a two-state solution are, quote, ‘delusions’, and openly supports the so-called settlers.

    The more you learn about Israel, the better you’ll see there’s no hope for it.

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    Of course it’s Netanyahu’s fault! Israel was a much nicer state when its prime minister was the founder of the terrorist group Irgun, or the leader of the terrorist group Lehi. It’s just one bad apple, not the whole tree that is rotten! /s

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    Not only Netanyahu, there is also the Zionist parties and the opression of all not-zionist media in Israel. A hugh part of the population are not even aware of the genocide. Same as in the US 30% still vote for Trump, because they are in a bubble from mass media like FOX News. The problem is always the ignorance and fears created by certain colectives in own benefits. Dictatorships and faschism wouldn’t work with an educated and correct informed population.

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        Yes, brainwashed like all zionists (MAGAs) by zionist (right wing) media which show the Palestinians (Mexicans) as animals. Average people are herd animals and easy to manipulate with patriotic BS speaks, flags, religion and fears of an invented enemy. Same recipe since centuries.

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            I don’t apologize for authoritarians, but against “easy solutions”, the problem isn’t solved eliminating Netanyahu (Trump), its eliminating all the infrastructure and disinformation media behind these. The religion which shows the kids in schools that only in their country the people are the “pure race” and all other are for serve or to eliminate. Education and true information kills totalitarism govs, not only the dictator. It’s a bad trap to confuse anti-zionism and anti-semitism. Globalizations are always wrong. All US citizens are stupid and Trumpsupporters?

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      There’s compulsory military service. All Zionists join the military and directly participate in genocide as young adults. They DO know.

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    Israels occupation of Gaza and the west bank is wrong.

    But, where are you getting this 90% figure? Highest I could find was 65%. Not that any support is acceptable.

    Or are we just taking instagram memes on face value?

    It feels like this meme is really trying to encourage hate for people just based on where they were born.

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      A majority of the Israeli public, at 78%, expresses high trust in the IDF, showing no significant change compared to the last three months (75%–77%), since peaking at 83% during the war against Iran (Operation Rising Lion) in June 2025. Among the Jewish public, trust in the IDF remains very high at 90% in this survey, compared to 86% previously, while among the Arab public it remains very low at 32%.

      https://www.inss.org.il/publication/survey-october-2025/

      The 90% number seems to be Jewish Israelis as opposed to Israelis in general.

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        This whole discussion is about the lack of source for given statistics.

        You might be right, but I dont know where youre getting your info.

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      “Look guys, I think the apartheid and genocide is not great, but it’s wrong to say it’s not the sole fault of Netanyahu, with the rest of Israel being innocent and good!”

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        Never said any Israeli was good.

        Just asked for a source for the stat provided in the OP. Given such source that 9/10 support the IDF. I could easily agree thats it would be safe to assume that any given Israeli is faschist.

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      Its also a case of polling Germans under the Nazis government vs what their true thoughts are.

      The reality is that German support for the Nazis policies rarely went over the 35-40% level. The majority were just forced to go along with it.

      Still, just like with the Germans, it will be a hell of a job rabilitating that society.

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        Nazi Germany was a fascist country where you would get tortured for opposing the genocide of jews. Israel is different.

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          israel’s government has also been around a significant bit longer than nazi germany’s was. that gives time to indoctrinate entire generations.

          like, i grew up in statesia. i’ll be picking the propaganda out of my history education my entire life (and i studied the damn subject for a bit. long, irrelevant story) and it’s not fun. it’s less fun being unaware tho.

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    That’s what Netanyahu is for, that’s what Trump is for. They are scapegoats, sineaters to absorb the blame.

    None of what they want could happen without a LOT of powerful, filthy-rich people behind them, and significant public support of at least some of their platform.

    Re this issue, Israelis know that their lives depend on victory, as do the Palestinians. There is no “two-state” solution. They are both dedicated to the destruction of the other.

    All of them? Of course not. But fundamentalist Islam and Judaism both ironically agree on “from the river to the sea”, they both believe that this is ordained by God. One will always “genocide” the other.

    History has proved that you can burn Jerusalem to the ground, and the fundies (including Christians) will proudly fight to the death over the rubble.

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    Would you also agree most Russians are responsible for the invasion of Ukraine?

    The only war is class war.

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      Is anyone trying to defend Russia by pinning everything in Putin alone and saying we need to keep supporting Russia because they’re otherwise good? No? Then you’re just strawmanning

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      if those “Russians” came from other continents, and started stealing native Ukrainian land, calling it Russia due to biblical crap, while imperialists giving them a green card, then they started ethnic cleanse millions of indigenous people of that land, and established a fake western state called Russia, renaming every village with fake names using a made up language.

      Then my answer is YES i would agree

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        I mean those Russians are volunteering to murder Ukrainians for money.

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          Even if this were true (it’s not) you still moved the goal posts from your original statement. And even if it were true (it’s not) it still doesn’t pin the problem solely on Putin or on Russian citizens, almost like there’s nuanced material analysis to be applied across broad, complex international geopolitics.

          EVEN THEN, Your analysis is just mediocre at best. Deliberately misleading, childish and ignorant at worst.

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          The Palestinians do not have an army and cannot defend themselves. The Palestinians aren’t getting weapons and ammunition to defend themselves from the western imperial powers. They live in an open air prison and have nowhere to run and no means to defend themselves. This is not an equivalent comparison.

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      I would say the NATO leaders are responsible, as they’ve admitted their plan to provoke Russia into invading by breaking the minsk agreements and building forces up along the border.

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      I agree with you. I find it to be a forest for the trees argument with many sympathetic to the Palastinians cause. They fail so see the driving factors behind the zionist project is class exploitation.

      Instead they get drawn into the narratives of the elites on the other side who seek to exploit them through continuation of the project.

      Like supporting a Mullah, because you are against the Rabbi, when the true enemy is the elites using religion…

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              What is racism other than declaring one’s superiority over others? Its just a sub form of classism’s.

              Racism at a fundamental level is indisingishable from nationalism, or Religiocentrism.

              Classism is the basic concept that one person deserves more than another. Its anti-equality. It has many subforms.

              Racism is insufficient to describe the motivations of Zionism. Take the racism away and it still won’t address most of the problems of religiocentrism and nationalism in that state.

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        Fair point. The Epstein class is planning the Gaza rebuild and the techno fascists are totally onboard with this. The fundamentals are a tool for the imperial empire to establish a foothold in the oil rich Middle East. I mean the country was literally founded by the Rothschild’s. I would say both groups are using eachother but even among the “elite” this thread of white Jewish supremacy is ever present. The elites and Jeffrey Epstein were very into social Darwinism, eugenics and supremacy. All these factors play a roll in what we are seeing in Gaza.

        billionaire eugenics project