Google has put artificial intelligence at the front and center of its search bar. The most-visited site on the internet still shows the same list of links to users, but they have to scroll past a summarized response from an AI chatbot, a feature Google calls AI Overviews. The change to what was once the gateway to the rest of the internet has been profound, and the browsing habits of billions of people are shifting.

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  • detren@sh.itjust.works
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    10 days ago

    Even without the AI overview there’s so many AI written articles in search results that it’s hard to get through the noise. Limiting search to pre 2022 only does so much when you want information on something recent.

    I don’t miss the old Google, I miss the old Internet :(

  • Arghblarg@lemmy.ca
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    11 days ago

    noai.duckduckgo.com, for at least one alternative.

    CoMaps or Openstreetmaps instead of Google Maps.

    ProtonMail/ProtonDrive instead of gmail, gdrive.

    There are lots of alternatives, we just need to use them and tell others to use them as well.

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      11 days ago

      In the past when I tried different engines, I’d eventually get frustrated with a specific queery and resort to google to get what I needed

      Lately, if duck duck fails me, if I bother trying google then the results are even worse. It feels like the end of an era

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        9 days ago

        DDG with limiting results to before 2020 helps even more. As long as the things you’re looking for existed before LLMs

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      DuckDuckGo is AI opt-out, and for me that’s a non-starter.

      I’ve personally found Kagi the best search alternative.

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        9 days ago

        300 searches a month isn’t nearly enough and $10/mo. for unlimited is too much. Especially since they’ll probably raise it in a couple of years, and it will keep going up.

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    Oh yes, I remember. I remember that Google started to become worse and worse starting around 2018. By 2020, SEO was too damned good and ruined so much of the results. By 2024, trying to find technical info became so difficult I’d end up searching with DDG which was sometimes better.

    All this was before AI slop existed.

    Don’t blame AI. Blame SEO by commercial interests. They’ve been generating slop since the early 2000s. AI just makes them faster at it.

  • RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world
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    10 days ago

    Same list of links?

    Since when?

    It used to give you what it thought was the most relevant based on the terms placed in the search field. It was excellent.

    Now it gives you: AI, youtube, sponsored links, ad links, shopping links, SEO garbage, social media links, and out of all of these there’s a good chunk that have only tangential relevance to your search at best, and then MAYBE you might get a link to a site that presents the information you seek.

    Sometimes google search returns nothing at all.

    Same list of garbage.

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    Screw that I miss old school spiders/crawlers. If you knew how to search them correctly you could find “pass dumps” and all kinds of weird shit you can’t find now days.

    Now every search is ranked bullshit and ads. Dead internet is here and only going to get worse…

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    Google was done a long time before AI came about. I quit using it as a primary search engine probably 5 or more years ago.

    • kestrel7_7@lemmy.world
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      10 days ago

      People ask me how I like DDG and I’m like. It’s better than google these days. Not because DDG got better, but because google got worse.

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    Nerds missed old google five to ten years ago. It was crap way before the AI garbage, but agreed that they’re shoving bs on us.

    • TheRiskiestBiscuit@reddthat.com
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      Google was really awesome at a point in time. You could throw it the most obscure query using natural language with in-text Boolean operators and the number one result would direct you to an html-only geocities page that hadn’t been updated since 1999 with the EXACT answer you needed and citations from 3-4 actual, physical books to back up that answer. IMHO, those were peak times for the internet as an information resource; approximately 1998-2008.

      Now every page just seems to be a bloated, poorly-coded monument to engagement baiting, subscription model services, and ad revenue generation. It’s genuinely sad to have watched the degradation over the years…

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        100%, it’s weird to feel like my information access has gone back down to 90’s levels. Half the time you’re better off going to the library and flippin pages!

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    Users who were quoted in the article:

    • Sionn Achog, retired teacher 76, Dublin
    • Peter Warb, 75, UK
    • Jose Garcia Jr, 40, recovery coach, Dallas, Texas
    • Alan Caruana, consultant, 62, Malta
    • Eleazar Eke, electrical engineer, 67, Onitsha, Nigeria
    • Catherine Weber, former political analyst, 57, Oregon
    • Mark Johnson, 52, software engineer, London
    • Samuel Lieberstein, 90, retired teacher, Cherry Hill, New Jersey
    • Sean Peters, document processor, 41, Portland, Oregon

    According to Wikipedia, the CIA’s median age statistics for 2024 for each of the countries that had a respondent:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_median_age

    • Ireland: 40.2
    • United Kingdom: 40.8
    • United States: 38.9
    • Malta: 43.5
    • Nigeria: 19.3

    The respondents seem awfully non-representative of the larger population, considerably older. There isn’t a single person who was below the median age for their country, and many who were far above.

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      10 days ago

      Don’t they have to be old to have used “Old Google”? It’s about 30 years old, seems appropriate that the users of old Google would be 40s at minimum, yeah?

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        Depends how young you were when you first touched a computer with internet access. I had a computer in 1995 but internet didn’t really get into house holds until a few years later with AOL disks. Some one mid 30s is probably the cut off. It really depended where you lived and your economic status. Computers were expensive and people didn’t really have ordinary uses for them yet.

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    so they can charge even more for advertising that wont really generate sales than if you would have lowered the price from the start. btw google charges 15-30% of a product while producing nothing of that value.

    businesses are truly dumb paying for ads hope they go bankrupt using ai ads.

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        there are ways to do business without completely stealing ripping people off u can provide something of value instead of no value like car dealers 15000 markup of nothing or ai slop and hallucinations costing trillions for absoblutely near no value while asking others to pay for it. u know like scamming tax payers fraud waste abuse while gas lighting