Linux vs Windows tested in 10 games - Linux 17% faster on Average::Computers, hardware, software and gaming in Spanish and English

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    11 months ago

    Windows has so much garbage overhead via telemetry, etc. Glad to see someone quantifying how detrimental it is.

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    11 months ago

    Steam Deck and Proton have done wonders for Linux compatibility efforts.

    However looking at NEW releases I actually want to play, many launch barely working on windows let a lone via proton / emulation. My back catalog has great support but we need more titles launching with official support.

    The worst thing has to be all of the “launchers / game stores” JUST GIVE US GAMES!

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      Even “good” companies like BG3 makers. Are making it harder to play without signing into their launcher.

      There’s an extra screen now, which is extremely unintuitive to get to, to skip their launcher sign in :(

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      11 months ago

      Nvidia is their own worst enemy as regards Linux. When everyone realizes games work better under Linux and AMD, nVidia will be crying outside the gate. We’re 5 years into Proton, in another 5 years there won’t be a game that doesn’t run better on Linux.

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        When everyone realizes games work better under Linux and AMD, nVidia will be crying outside the gate.

        So you think Microsoft spends 8 billion dollars acquiring Bethesda Game Studios, Arkane Studios, id Software, MachineGames, Tango Gameworks, ZeniMax Online Studios in 2020 and then proceeds to spend 68 billion dollars on acquiring Activision Blizzard…

        … just to stand on the sidelines watching everyone drop Windows as a gaming platform?

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          11 months ago

          They do lock you to Windows to use GamePass, but as long as the games are available on other marketplaces they’ll be playable on Linux. The Xbox app, which is what you have to use for GamePass for some stupid reason, installs games in a special encrypted format that can’t (easily) be executed from outside of it.

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            11 months ago

            So that’s why I never got into gamepass!

            I knew there had to be a reason, couldn’t be that I’m just lazy.

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          Do you realize that it doesn’t matter to them if gamers use Windows or not, right? Windows is big on the enterprise side, consumer OS is the least of their worries, and their gaming division doesn’t lose anything if gamers run their games on Linux, thanks to steam actually. So no, I don’t think that maters…

          Not to mention that we’re talking about Nvidia and having a shitty ass driver being a bad thing long term for them, not Microsoft.

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            Oh… The home users matters to Microsoft. A lot.

            MS have been standing by the sidelines watching Google raking home all that sweet money made from all that personal data Android and Chrome users happily hand over.

            Why do you think you’re able to install Windows and use it without activating it? Because Microsoft are nice guys doing charity?

            No. Microsoft aren’t dropping the home market. They’ve just been repositioning themselves the last couple of years.1

      • rurutheguru@lemmings.world
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        11 months ago

        Linux performance with proton has increased so drastically in recent years, your statement can be taken as wishful thinking at first, but there is a definite trend and I agree that Linux will probably be the powerhouse of gaming in coming years.

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        11 months ago

        We’re 5 years into Proton, in another 5 years there won’t be a game that doesn’t run better on Linux.

        Insh’allah :D (* I’m an atheist, but the phrase is kind of fitting)

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      11 months ago

      Fully usable with NVidia. I can play all the games I want at the same graphical settings as Windows. (Nvidia 1080)

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        11 months ago

        That’s because you’re using fairly old hardware, anything in the 2000-series and up doesn’t work very well.

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          I’m rolling an RTX 2060 mobile in a Lenovo gaming laptop and everything is hunky dory. I’ve been saying for a couple years now that everything feels faster on linux, and that includes games. Proton is truely an impressive tool.

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          11 months ago

          My 3070 runs better than on windows🤷‍♀️ (in most of my favourite games)

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      11 months ago

      I have a 1660 and every game ive played on linux does run better and getting the nvidia drivers wasnt that hard

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    Well, that’s what happens when you don’t have crazy spyware services running in the background. Also Windows, just like any Microsoft product, is very inefficient and wastes lots of resources.

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      11 months ago

      There’s no time better than the present 😀 Windows free since April!

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          11 months ago

          Zorin OS became my favorite distro, tried a lot over the years. Consistent, clean design and pretty easy to customize, compatibility is good because it’s based on ubuntu. Zorin connect is pretty neat too.

    • 𝕽𝖔𝖔𝖙𝖎𝖊𝖘𝖙@lemmy.world
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      I finally pulled the trigger (again, hopefully for good this time) after a nonconsensual Windows update corrupted my disk and my bitlocker recovery key was not accepted.

      That was a couple months ago now and I’m happy to report that not only is game compatibility on Linux loads better than last time I tried this but I can corroborate that many of my games also perform better on Linux than they did on the same system in Windows

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      11 months ago

      Been dual-booting for about 4 years. It might be time to remove the Windows partition and use a VM though because I only use Windows a few times a year (just once this year for installing it).

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        11 months ago

        Same, except I have two OS drives I swap between. Photoshop and Launchbox are all that’s really keeping me anymore.

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          11 months ago

          I also use 2 drives to avoid Windows “repairing” my Linux install away.

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    It must be very hard to exactly compare games between Windows and Linux because it’s possible that emulation in Proton, WINE or the driver means some settings or extensions might not be enabled even if they appear to be. DirectX emulation is also bound to slow things down so a game probably has to be use OpenGL or Vulkan directly.

    So while I can well believe that Linux can keep up and possibly exceed Windows, it needs a careful technical eye to ensure a true comparison is happening.

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        Wine is an emulator. It might not have started as such when it was winelib but it is now, especially when running binaries. If in doubt read their own FAQ where they take pains to describe it depends what you’re doing and what is meant by emulation.

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          11 months ago

          Go read the code. It’s a reimplementation of core Windows DLLs. Quite a clean one. There is also a daemon that fakes a NT kernel. It’s worth a read.

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            11 months ago

            I know what it is thanks. I even contributed code a long time back to it.

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              Then why are you saying it’s going to pay any kind of emulation cost? It’s not really much different to what MS do. NT has it’s own sys calls that MS call in their Win32 implementation. WINE calls POSIX calls in their’s.

              Well done contributing anyway. I haven’t, but I crawled all over the source when I developed on Windows as it was better than MSDN for the semi-documented stuff (that was only documented at all because EU forced them).

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                11 months ago

                I didn’t and I don’t know where you got the idea I did.

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                  11 months ago

                  Cool, well happy it was just a miss understanding, but I’m clearly not the only one who thought you were saying that. Might be worth clarifying in you earlier posts.

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      It’s getting hard to do just between AMD and Nvidia on Windows.

      I’m old enough to remember the days when reviewers showed macro shots of the wires in half life 2 to test AA between different cards.

      Does anyone even test that enabling “Ultra” settings results in the same configuration across vendors/generations? I’m pretty sure LTT Labs found cases where it wasn’t.

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    GN came to a weaker conclusion when they were looking at one of the handhelds (I want to say the asus ROG?), although they just attributed that to the device rather than claim it was the OS.

    But most of this reminds me of how Elden Ring was significantly more performant “on steam deck” at launch. And that was mostly because all shaders had to be precached which had implications on how From were streaming content. Which is likely why stuff like mortal kombat 1 apparently forces players to wait for shaders before they can play.

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    This is impressive and interesting, but what about hardware ray tracing support? Proton has been very impressive but I thought that RT on DX12 was basically non-existent on Linux.

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      Hardware raytracing works even on newer Radeon cards. I played Control recently with raytracing on Linux and it works pretty well, though the average frame rate drops to around 40 FPS. I had to use FSR to get higher framerates.

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    It’s also like saying that bloating an OS with spyware and useles eyecandy it makes it use hardware resources ineficiently. But of course that’s not the case with Micro$oft.

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    11 months ago

    Not only in games, I switched from Windows 10 to LXQT and I can finally open more than 3 programs at the same time without the pc hanging for 10 seconds every time I switched between programs

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      Too much effort for too little market share. But since the Steam Deck is popular, it’s harder to ignore Linux.

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    AMD only and not Nvidia? That’s what I was seeing based on a quick search. Unfortunately, I don’t have an AMD GPU.

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      I’ve got an RTX 2060 mobile that I’ve been linux-gaming on for a few years now, it’s been great. I was getting consistent blue screen crashes with windows, even after multiple reinstalls. Ubuntu had some minor issues out of the box, like I had to find a program to control screen brightness, but PopOS has been literally flawless.

      I’ve been saying for years now that gaming on linux feels faster. Most games get better framerates than they did natively on windows, but I’ve never known if that was unique to my setup. Really neat to have more data!

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    Doesn’t really surprise me, I’ve had a Steam deck since launch and the performance on Windows titles has always been impressive, even considering its relatively low-end hardware.

    The only thing preventing me from dual-booting my desktop is lack of software RAID support in most distributions (by this I mean RAID configured in the BIOS but not using a dedicated hardware controller).

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      To be fair, that bios-managed RAID is still using a hardware controller. It’s embedded in the motherboard.

      Anyway, hardware RAID is discouraged in home/workstation environments as you don’t have control over how the controller implements it. So if the board breaks, it’s harder to retrieve your data.

      Linux has support for real software RAID, for example using LVM or filesystems that have that feature. It’s easier to setup than it may sound. Most distributions can enable that during installation of the OS.