It is so difficult to find modern electronics without telemetry and ads. Smartphones, laptops, TVs, home routers, security cameras, cars, game consoles, e-readers, projectors, 3D printers, fitness trackers, speakers, and even some printers. Why can’t customers be free from this data collection and advertising? It’s not that we don’t care about it. There simply aren’t many alternatives, and the few that do exist are either more expensive or offer fewer features. Seriously, we need a list of products we can buy and use directly without worrying about telemetry or advertising.
The following list is updated at https://lemmy.ml/post/52706206. Please note that this list may contain errors.
- Laptop: Framework Laptop, System76, MNT
- Anything else that doesn’t come with ads or telemetry built in?
This post is off-topic for the community.
That said, its a topic people here are quite passionate about, which is why it gathered quite a bit of comments already.
I’m going to leave it up, but locked.
Would steam frame fall into a vr headset category that doesn’t spy on you?
Yes an account is required for most straightforward functionality and it is made to primarily work with steam but from what I know it can be bypassed and isolated to a specific dongle network channel and will only sends stuff like eye tracking or camera data if you submit troubleshooting logs, everything else is either on device or not stored at all
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Game console: Mister FPGA (and other compatibles). Up to N64 hardware emulation without big tech behind. Internet connection not requited.
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The Brax phone raised some extremely serious red flags when I saw they put on their banner it was promoted by Joe Rogan and use Brave as their primary browser.
Having two scammers featured makes it feel like a scam.
I think it’s way too rare for brave to catch strays like this. Like it’s only at some nieche comment section where one person says things like “yea the founder is a homophobe”. I only ever see praise about it (and some people calling it scammy here on lemmy lol)
I didn’t know about the homophobe thing. I’m talking about the whole secretly mining crypto thing they did in the past and then afterwards the sketchy crypto pay stuff they tried to pull off after
Edit: and now I see the Brax phone controversy linked in the main post. I’m thinking it’s not so strange Brave browser keeps popping up in problematic projects like this. Birds of a feather flock together I suppose.
I have included the criticism, but there is no evidence that it collects telemetry or displays ads.
I would remove Brax Phone altogether, that guy is fearmongering people into buying old insecure phones. There were times I was watching his videos until I saw the pattern…
I have included the criticism, but there is no evidence that it collects telemetry or displays ads.
Brax Phone, LOL! yeah, I’ll surely trust this list…
I have included the criticism, but there is no evidence that it collects telemetry or displays ads.
The Bangle.js 2 for the smartwatch category. Open source OS, no server to phone home to, the data stays on device unless you copy it to your phone or PC. The heart rate monitor and sleep detection are jank af, but it does everything else well.
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Mozilla has their Nothing Personal online magazine with product reviews. It’s only a small handful of product at this point. This started out as “Privacy Not Included”, which is now defunct.
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Purism for phone and laptops, Starlabs for laptops and tablets. Router: Openwrt. SmartHome: Homeassistant + zigbee devices (no wifi). Everything Else: A raspi with a soldering iron.
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If you want to go the DIY option for a 3D printer, there is Voron. It’s open source hardware and it runs the Klipper firmware which is open source.
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