It was just a dark thought.

“Ai agents have already effectively taken over the majority of internet traffic on Cloudflare’s network, making up roughly 60% of total volume.”

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    That graphic is all wrong. Aws and Cloudflare are multi billion dollar corporations, they are the giant rectangles. The little thing is curl made by daniel steinberg for free, and that is used by virtually every computer to comunicate to servers.

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    I work in IT infrastructure (not AWS but something like it) and the reality is that there are a few blocks like AWS and Cloudflare out there. That doesn’t really make things less concerning considering if they were actually pulled it would cause a lot of problems.

    So to be clear, if something managed to completely disable or “control” AWS it would be disastrous, and AWS is under attack from multiple vectors including AI Agents, including their own INTERNAL AI Agents. In December 2025 Amazon’s internal coding AI agent Kiro decided the most efficient course of action to resolve a minor bug in AWS Cost Explorer was to completely rebuild the production environment, causing a 13 hour outage for Cost Explorer while engineers manually rebuilt the environment.

    The thing is, in the picture you posted AWS is this fragile single block holding everything up, when in it might be more useful to think of it conceptually as say, a major highway. Would it be a disaster if terrorists were able to suddenly destroy/control all of I-75? Yes. Is that feasible? No. Kiro caused a really bad traffic jam in one segment of one highway, it didn’t destroy the whole thing.

    A highway can experience traffic incidents and recover. Major jams could be intentionally caused by bad actors or poor maintenance, and highways have to be altered, upgraded and maintained to limit the situations that can completely shut down segments of it.

    But the concern is more that key segments will be impacted, not the entire thing.

    That’s more of what people in my field are concerned with, and there’s efforts to try to lock those key segments down and account for potential threats. How well that’s being done is a different story.

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      I’m less concerned with the jamming of a major highway and more concerned with three or four companies having a defacto monopoly on the Internet. AWS, GCP, and Azure host what? 90% of all traffic? 99%? Considering how many providers have them as a direct dependent, the “own nothing and like it” prospect looms ominously to me. The Internet should be a decentralized service owned by people and lots of small companies, not a handful of corporations.

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    I’m so tired of these idiotic questions. Even here. AI can’t take over computers. Some of you all have utterly lost touch with reality.

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      Sure it can. There is a setting in codex to allow it to take over your computer. It doesn’t spread to other PCs, but it certainly can take it over.

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    The thing is, those “rogue AIs” are just marketing stunts. Companies like Cloudflare and Amazon are not as easy targets

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    How exactly would an AI agent “take over” AWS or Cloudflare? That doesn’t even make sense.

    The whole purpose of cloudflare is literally to take a shitload of traffic, your quote from wherever it’s from is just describing Cloudflare working as intended? The only thing happening here is customers getting bigger bills

    For anything external to “take over” AWS in any remotely meaningful way, AWS would have to have a long cascade of internal fuck-ups so all-encompassing, that it’s kinda unfathomable.

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      I assumed it was saying that 60% of traffic seen by cloud flare was AI scrapers. Which is believable TBH.

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        Yeah that’s kinda what I’m saying, cloudflare is a CDN, handling a lot of traffic is the point of it. It’s a pretty big stretch to link that to AI “taking over” it. Heavily using it perhaps, as I insinuated with customers getting bigger bills

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    What have rogue models effed with so far? A government website in Australia, derelict chat forums, and another AI company? I’m willing to believe that two things are happening at the same time. That sandboxing these agents will improve with these so-called breaches. And that companies like Amazon or Cloudflare are improving their security continuously with threat models. And if they don’t have rogue agents on their radar, that stack deserves to fall.

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    They are not as important as some people seem to think, it would be a very good thing if a massive amount of customers would move away from those services.
    The disruption would only be very temporary.