• coyootje@lemmy.world
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    4 days ago

    Yeah Biden is definitely more of a moderate right wing liberal according to most European countries standards.

    I can somewhat imagine that people wanted change and decided to vote for Trump once, just to see what would happen. However, what I do not understand is the people who voted for him 2! times after that. How can you look at the endless list of shit he did in his first term and think “yeah I’ll have more of that please”.

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      people wanted change and decided to vote for Trump once

      What I don’t understand is what that even would mean, substantively. As in actual policies, and not part of the culture war that conservatives are waging against America.

      Change from…what? Things seemed to be getting back on track under Obama after the eight year debacle that was W.

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        The point of a representative democracy is that nobody needs to know every fine detail of politics. They pick a representative to do that for them.

        Then nobody pays any attention, apart from an occasional headline.

        They saw someone being an open piece of shit, and that was a change from the previously diplomatic suits. Change you can believe in!

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          Yeah, I guess that’s my point - the being an open piece of shit is part of the culture war. It’s not really about any policies, per se, other than those meant to hurt other people.

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        3 days ago

        I’ve heard the argument that people were bored with US politics and wanted to shake things up. Well, they sure managed to do that…

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          Yes. And these people are known as idiots. Also, a lot of them are misogynists that could not see themselves voting for a woman and probably gave excuses like “I just want to shake things up”.

          I heard that again in 2025, by the way, about both donnie and Elon, when Elon was being brought in to destroy government agencies: “maybe they will just shake things up”.

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      what I do not understand is the people who voted for him 2! times after that.

      This is also why allies don’t trust USA anymore. The problem isn’t just Trump, it’s the American voters.