And it fucking blows now. You don’t get shit but ads.
They’re somehow WORSE than duckduckgo nowadays like how? You were the search leader, people used DDG for privacy reasons but they passed you??? Did you forget why you’re a company? It’s because you were the best fucking search engine ever and you decided to sell that title for ads or some shit. Incredible how Google fell off the fucking side of a mountain they themselves built!
Yes, but have you considered, line must go up?
For me it went from “great” to “usable” over the course of a decade or so, and then from “usable” to “worthless” over the course of six months. It’s a remarkably awful trajectory.
It’s pretty wild how Google search has degraded. The push for SEO has really ruined useful results.
And DuckDuckGo lacks basic stuff such as keyword exclusion. (It’s my main search engine for the last few years after Startpage got bought, but lacking keyword exclusion sucks!)
you can -something , but it isn’t full exclusion. It’s generally been good enough for me. I agree the full fat version would be nice.
So far I haven’t had any luck with -something “soft” exclusions either.
Yea I bailed after they nerfed exclusions and whatnot but not like the others are slam dunks
Kagi is even better than DDG. Google is absolutely horrendous.
It’s interesting, but $120 a year is just too much for me.
The lowest plan is only $54 a year and it’s most definitely worth it for the results.
300 searches a month is just way too little for my usage
When you use 1/10th the searches because you get it all in the very first query your usage goes wayyyy down. even then, you aren’t limited to 300 searches. you can go over, you just pay per search. and even with that if you can’t do that then just default to DDG then. I found DDG to be terrible, not at all better than Bing by itself, so Kagi was something I tried and immediately fell in love with. It just works. And I don’t have to worry about any of my data going anywhere at all, to any advertisers for anything, or for tracking, etc.
I’ve done 418 searches today and it’s still noon. That’s ~1254 a month. Even if my searches went down by 90% I’d still be 4.18 times over.
… Kagi was something I tried and immediately fell in love with. It just works.
Does it also work with very specific technical searches? Could it for example search for the behavior of
atolwhen it encounters an alphabetical character? Neither Google, Bing nor DuckDuckGo provide me with an answer. Google doesn’t even show cppreference in the top 5.
Is ddg actually good now? I remember it feeling nearly useless waay back when it was first hitting the scene. Might have to give it a shot again
I’m not a power user, but I’ve used DDG exclusively for a while now and I often forget that I’m using it. I’d say it’s a pretty seamless transition nowadays.
You actually get the results you are looking for without the sponsored links. Sometimes you end up searching for reddit results but that’s every search engine.
Not kagi. I haven’t specified Reddit once since switching to kagi. It really is that much better than DDG and Google.
I only use Google if DDG can’t find what I’m looking for. Usually Google doesn’t either if DDG can’t so lately I’ve been giving up after the DDG results. I can’t stand Google anymore. The first page of results is just ads and the next page is all irrelevant nonsense.
And they want to force us to whitelist youtube from adblockers.
I dunno on one side we have Google trying to wreck the entire internet and have their ads in your face 95 percent of the time.
On the other side is Microsoft who won’t leave you the hell alone when pushing they’re shit tiers programs and steal defaults on a weekly basis.
To me the only solution is ruling both companies monopolys and fining them to hell and breaking them up. Both are out of control and ruining computing and the Internet.
Google could be broken up into
- search
- chrome / gsuite
- YouTube
- gcloud
- ads
- android. And I’m sure more
MS
- windows / office
- azure
- xbox
- bing
…I’m too tired to keep going lol
If those had to all survive independently and couldn’t leech off profits of the parent organization we could have true competition. Instead you just need one super-profitable arm of a company than loss-lead your way into other verticals and out-compete everyone else because you don’t have to turn a profit, at least while the competition is still clinging on.
Ads are a core component of how search makes money. They’re also a core component of how YouTube makes money.
They would probably have gsuite and gcloud be one but yes.
And in the meantime, become a farmer! /s (you’d still have John Deere problems…)
*To stifle competition FTFY
Relying on people’s apathy is a business model with eras of success. Most people have never changed a setting other than dark mode, and even then that’s probably your average superuser.
you are actually onto something. When Neeva went under, they were a paid search engine, they made a post explain why. The hardest part was getting people to pay a monthly sub, but getting them to change the settings
This validates my stubborn commitment to DuckDuckGo, ty
Which defaults to Bing, to whom ddg sends all your queries. I use ddg.
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IYour article says since August, 2022. Thanks for the update.
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That probably wasn’t the original source where I read it. I think it was some privacy or security blog, it seems they’d tested a bunch of browsers. It was posted at the place that shan’t be named a while ago.
Crazy that it’s cheaper to do that than it is to build a product that can find recipe blogs that aren’t also novels.
I happily pay $10 a month for Kagi and it’s freaking great.
I’m never going back to Google.
This feels like google when google was new. I’ve been using the summarizer more and reading the articles I send it to understand how it works. It definitely has its use cases
You pay for a search engine? You have a subscription to a search engine? I’m I understanding that right?
It is a search engine right? My brain is struggling with this.
Is there something about search engines, as opposed to other online services, that makes you expect them to be free?
I suppose there is. At least that is the bias I hold.
Personally i find $10 a month to be too expensive, but don’t we all pay for search engines in a way? With Google you don’t pay directly but with your information and by getting influenced in your behaviour (e.g. to buy something from someone who in return pays google for advertisement).
Quite true
same
Hopefully the antitrust trial will end up telling Google they cannot pay anybody for preference of their browser. That would be the best outcome.
The MO of current “market leaders” is not to compete but gatekeep.
I’d gladly switch back to Google if they paid me a million dollars.
This is the best summary I could come up with:
Even if it’s easy to switch browsers or platforms or search engines, the one that appears when you turn it on matters a lot.
Google obviously agrees and has paid a staggering amount to make sure it is the default: testimony in the trial revealed that Google spent a total of $26.3 billion in 2021 to be the default search engine in multiple browsers, phones, and platforms.
It was made public after a debate earlier in the week between the two sides and Judge Amit Mehta over whether the figure should be redacted.
(Apple’s outsize percentage of the total is why that particular deal has been such a focus of the first weeks of the trial.)
Until now, these numbers have been closely held secrets, leaving competitors and analysts to speculate about exactly what it’s worth to Google to be the near-universal default choice.
He also said that he sees Yelp and Amazon as competitors and that, in such a hot market, Google has to do everything it can to stay relevant and compete.
The original article contains 519 words, the summary contains 174 words. Saved 66%. I’m a bot and I’m open source!
Approximately 16% of their revenue or 29% of their profit. I’d take that tradeoff any day.
That’s called innovation in capitalism.
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Awesome. Google is my favourite search engine for privacy 🥰😍😌
