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Pope Francis prays for an end to the violence in the Holy Land, especially in Gaza where a humanitarian catastrophe has unfolded, as well as for the ...

Pope Francis prays for an end to the violence in the Holy Land, especially in Gaza where a humanitarian catastrophe has unfolded, as well as for the …

  • fiat_lux@kbin.social
    116·
    1 year ago

    And if the Vatican gets to spread its views, then I will continue to remind others in turn of its own contributions to anti-Semitism and atrocities.

    I call on the Pope to release internal Vatican documentation and hoarded gold/loot Catholic extremists / fascists stole during WW2. The leader of the fascist Ustaše was hidden by the Church in the Vatican after the war

    We can both make ineffective pleas. At least mine isn’t hypocritical.

    • filister@lemmy.worldEnglish
      83·
      1 year ago

      So your point being is that if your grandfather is evil you most certainly also are? That’s a strange logic. Can you ELI5 how any of your links have anything to do personally with the Pope? Did he personally steal anything?

      That’s called generalisation and it’s a perfect example of how racial, religious and ethnic hatred works.

      Do you realise how petty you sound?

      For the record I am atheist and don’t believe in the existence of any God. I also think that religion has done its fair share to divide people.

      But in this particular case I got triggered by unsubstantial accusations based on historical grounds that have nothing to do with the person issuing the plea, solely because this person has expressed a different view than the commentator.

      • dasgoat@lemmy.worldEnglish
        41·
        1 year ago

        The current pope is sitting on mountains of evidence of all sorts of attrocities perpetrated in the name of the Catholic church. By the catholic church. Sure he’ll open up something here and there to keep the visage that they’re changed now, but they haven’t until they open it ALL up.

        See the latest article on Catholic Spain, where the abuse was so rampant, the victims run in the thousands. Catholic missionaries abusing children on an incomprehensible scale. Perhaps the church-run prisons in South-American countries? Maybe the second world war where the vatican was a conduit between nazis and the outside world?

        We won’t know until the CURRENT catholic church releases any and all documents, and not releasing them means they’re hiding actual crimes for actual criminals. In my eyes, that doesn’t make them any better than the people who perpetrated the crimes.

        Also idc if it’s petty. Do you think it’s petty that the catholic church took over the state’s responsibilities to care for widowed mothers and orphaned children in Ireland, leading to rampant abuse, rape, torture, human traficking and deaths among them? Is that petty? That we’re still finding mass graves in Canada, dug by the good ol boys of the catholic church, to which the catholic church still does not want to admit fault?

        Release the documents, you fucking cowards.

        • filister@lemmy.worldEnglish
          11·
          1 year ago

          So you are attacking the institution, I also think that the church as an institution is completely flawed, but the same applies to pretty much any religion that empowers people and lets them exploit the weak and vulnerable.

          The church was also burning alive people who were suspected of witchcraft, stifled technological progress for centuries, etc. Shall we blame the Pope for that too?

          So yes, I agree the church as an institution is compromised, but the same applies to pretty much any religion group and institution, and this is coming from the people who had been in power. The same as what Hamas and Israel are currently doing in Gaza, exploiting the weak and vulnerable.

          And sorry to disappoint you that there are also reported and documented sexual abuse cases in the Judaism as well, and also Rabbis taking advantage of young boys and girls.

          But the more important question is are you as a human being approving of the current situation in Gaza. And let me give you a hint, Israel like the church doesn’t have a pristine reputation and they are continuously and systematically abusing their position, committing countless human rights violations, which are recorded and easy to find with a simple Google search.

          Is this a reason enough to hate every Israeli? I don’t think so.