• baronvonj@piefed.social
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    2 days ago

    US doesn’t have a social safety net for people to fall back on. So people here can’t afford to lose their jobs by being out protesting for weeks.

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      I wish I could upvote this more than once. Without social safety nets, the average American cannot do anything to jeopardize their job without losing health benefits or income - and most folks are living paycheck to paycheck.

      If mass firings happen, and people realize they will literally be fucked unless they can force the government to listen, then maybe we’ll see wider scale protests.

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          21 hours ago

          I mean in some respects, occupy Wall Street was successful. It changed perspectives and raised class consciousness in a lot of sectors , including normies. It raised a lot of today’s political actors in the US.

          In its stated goals, it was more a failure than success.

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      It’s also a huge country that’s very diverse, so one region or state isn’t going to be aligned with others they don’t even know to have solidarity.

      But there will start being hot spots for the same reasons in Europe. It’s possible the US has better tools to control and pacify any movements (with work dependence - money and healthcare, being one of them).

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      Ding ding ding. We can’t get healthcare if we’re unemployed, we’ve been broke for a long time, and we can’t pay the rent if we lose our jobs. Calling out to protest when our bosses can fire us for literally any reason means we’re inches from homelessness at any given time.

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          It’s a lot to ask people be homeless for “the cause” a cause with no defined leaders, demands, or support. Build a community where people know they’ll have a couch to sleep on, a meal in their stomachs and hope to be rehired once it’s said and done and you’ll get your revolution. Everyone wants to skip the build a community part and go straight to the uprising but it doesn’t work that way

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          That’d be fine if I was alone, but I have my wife to worry about and there is no way I’m leaving her to be homeless.

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            I respect the position. Its up to each individual to decide for themselves if they want to be the slaves who keep themselves down or if you deserve and then demand better.

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      We’re also a settler colonialist state. We’re set up from the foundation as a society that respects property rights over human life. People get shot for knocking on someone’s door asking for help here. Our police torture and kill with impunity, and we imprison more of our population than any European country by far. It is hard to build strong working class movements but we have had some bright spots in recent history. But it’s also true that rioting in a few US cities wouldn’t have the same impact here as it does in France.

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      US only has safety nets for the wealthy, gambled with large sums of other people’s money on stupid shit and lost it all and fucked up the stock market for everyone and started a recession, there there, here’s sone public tax money to pick yourself up