Palestinians in northern Gaza reported fierce air and artillery strikes as Israeli troops backed by tanks pressed into the enclave with a ground assault that prompted more international calls for civilians to be protected.
conflict is inevitable. there will always be someone who desires something that someone else has - territory, money, resources, etc. when those people get enough supporters who share similar beliefs, war is the result. it’s the reality we exist in.
And it is up to the international community to say that this isn’t fine. I am totally with you.
The only problem is that no matter how many international organizations are trying to tell Israel that grabbing land from Palestinians isn’t okay, that creating illegal settlements isn’t okay, they continue doing it and incite violence. So they are historically the aggressor in this case.
yeah, if you look at maps from the last ~60+ years, that’s certainly true. it’s also true that Arab majority countries/organizations keep attacking Israel & they keep losing. each time they taste defeat, Israel seizes more territory. this is completely normal in wargaming (running strategic/tactical scenarios, not just 4x gaming), as well as in an active real world conflict.
an expected outcome arises from specific actions taken, or the wrong actions taken perhaps. it’s like whomever is leading hamas is stuck in an echo chamber - they keep fucking up. repeatedly, and then not learning from their mistakes. its just bizarre.
Doesn’t this 100% apply to Israel too? That they are also stuck in an echo chamber? Just look at the casualties on both sides before the 7th of October: https://www.ochaopt.org/data/casualties
And now explain to me how come that the armed wing of Hamas is believed around 30K the number of the injured Palestinians are 152.560, many of which are kids and women. In comparison the number of injured Israelis is 6.307.
I think the numbers speak for themselves and any reasonable human being would realise that the amount of force IDF is exercising is absolutely disproportionate. The same that was called “most moral army in the world”, I find this highly cynical.
the disproportionate numbers can easily be explained - air superiority. this is something that the Israeli defense policy makers learned from history and is, in a large part, why they’ve been so successful in this campaign (if that’s how we want to define success). Israel controls the space in more ways than just boots on the ground - conversely, hamas is literally ground bound.
that’s just another aspect of why this sudden attack by hamas made no sense - they never had a snowball’s chance in hell of anything other than sowing some initial chaos and perhaps a quick and dirty territorial gain. it’s basically a modern david and goliath story except goliath controls all the stones and most of the slings.
the last time this happened in a western nation it was a world war. the 2nd one. history is a thing, I suggest you educate yourself.
I am well aware of the history, fret not! But isn’t it human responsibility to try to avoid the mistakes we did in the past.
Or your point being that this has happened in the past, so it is perfectly fine to happen again?
conflict is inevitable. there will always be someone who desires something that someone else has - territory, money, resources, etc. when those people get enough supporters who share similar beliefs, war is the result. it’s the reality we exist in.
And it is up to the international community to say that this isn’t fine. I am totally with you.
The only problem is that no matter how many international organizations are trying to tell Israel that grabbing land from Palestinians isn’t okay, that creating illegal settlements isn’t okay, they continue doing it and incite violence. So they are historically the aggressor in this case.
yeah, if you look at maps from the last ~60+ years, that’s certainly true. it’s also true that Arab majority countries/organizations keep attacking Israel & they keep losing. each time they taste defeat, Israel seizes more territory. this is completely normal in wargaming (running strategic/tactical scenarios, not just 4x gaming), as well as in an active real world conflict.
an expected outcome arises from specific actions taken, or the wrong actions taken perhaps. it’s like whomever is leading hamas is stuck in an echo chamber - they keep fucking up. repeatedly, and then not learning from their mistakes. its just bizarre.
Doesn’t this 100% apply to Israel too? That they are also stuck in an echo chamber? Just look at the casualties on both sides before the 7th of October: https://www.ochaopt.org/data/casualties
And now explain to me how come that the armed wing of Hamas is believed around 30K the number of the injured Palestinians are 152.560, many of which are kids and women. In comparison the number of injured Israelis is 6.307.
I think the numbers speak for themselves and any reasonable human being would realise that the amount of force IDF is exercising is absolutely disproportionate. The same that was called “most moral army in the world”, I find this highly cynical.
the disproportionate numbers can easily be explained - air superiority. this is something that the Israeli defense policy makers learned from history and is, in a large part, why they’ve been so successful in this campaign (if that’s how we want to define success). Israel controls the space in more ways than just boots on the ground - conversely, hamas is literally ground bound.
that’s just another aspect of why this sudden attack by hamas made no sense - they never had a snowball’s chance in hell of anything other than sowing some initial chaos and perhaps a quick and dirty territorial gain. it’s basically a modern david and goliath story except goliath controls all the stones and most of the slings.