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Fascist governments got to fascist.
Targeting the LGBTQ+ population and eroding their rights and making it a focus during a time of an international cost of living crisis, is a tried and true practice of the right wing to hide their incompetence in governing and in matters of economy.
Here’s this thing that doesn’t affect me at all in any way but I kinda think is weird, so let me crush the spirit of a minority that already gets treated like shit?
Man some people suck so much.
I still can’t believe that Meloni got elected. Watching the far right rise all over Europe has been disturbing.
Oh I can definitely believe that. Most Italians are very gullible and populism sounds way better than ideas grounded in reality. Not to mention her opponents all sucked and would rather split up in hundreds of parties rather than actually form a coalition and have a chance at winning.
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At least the Conservatives will probably go down in Britain next year, but the Labour Party has just been pathetic lately.
Labour is ultimately just Tories with different colour ties. Neither support LGBTQ+ people. Either way, we will suffer.
Labour hasn’t been a party of labour in decades. Sad times we live in.
I don’t think that Tories will go down. I live in Labour constituency and people here now are very anti Labour.
Rabbits
and then people ask me, an Italian, why I want to leave this country asap
The way italy is going, they’re trying to be mussolini all over again.
Rabbitszz
Any historians care to explain why Italy jumps to fascism so quickly?
Not a historian, nor Italian, so double check me on this, but a big part of the “why” is that the facists were never removed from Italy. They’ve just been kind of allowed to fester since 1946. I mean, Germany didn’t really get rid of their facists either, but the Italian facist movement was basically unscathed. Movimento Sociale Italiano (MSI) was founded in 1946 by Facists literally from Mussolini’s party, and maintained relevance by making political alliances with other, more moderate conservative parties.
Some facists just straight up joined the Liberal parties. Fernando Tambroni, Christian Democratic Prime Minister of Italy for 116 days in 1960, for instance, was a Facist Party member during the war, and was quite the fan of Mussolini. The subsequent Prime Minister, Christian Democrat Party leader, Amintore Fanfani, who served five non-consecutive terms as PM, was also a member of the Facist Party.
In the 90s other facist parties, particularly Forza Italia, and Alleanza Nazionale were spun off from MSI and basically wore a better better mask, and managed to get Berlusconi, also a Mussolini Stan, in as PM.
We could continue doing pointing out facists in powerful positions in Italian politics, and we skipped the whole “decades of facist terrorism” thing, but really the reason Italy jumped to fascism is because it has been there the whole time, and has had power semi-regularly.
How come most Italian names sound badass?
Is it Italy? Or is it just humans?
I choose not to believe that is humans natural path.
You can deny it, but have you really thought about it.
Think about American Politics. “Well conservatives are just fascists.” Sure, I mean there’s the party that wants to control what people say, Cancelling them if they ever said anything they don’t like. Want to remove all rights from people in specific parties, and mandate how others act at all times… and then there’s the republicans which are also clearly fascists.
I’m not trying to say “Republicans are better than Democrats” they’re not, they’re clearly not. But Democrats aren’t that good either. It’s a problem with a desire to control others and when one party wins, they should feel they have a mandate to GOVERN but instead there’s a feeling they have a mandate to RULE or CONTROL. Luckily most politicians are somewhat sane about this, but god damn, some of the die hards on both sides have lost their mind.
Power corrupts, and Absolute Power corrupts absolutely. That’s kind of a fact of being human.
Democrats aren’t the ones rolling back civil rights protections for women and the LGBTQ+ community, flying Nazi and Confederate flags, pretending hate speech and hate rhetoric are legitimate political opinions or beliefs, banning and censoring books that so much as talk about the LGBTQ+ community let alone support it, or hiding behind the first amendment to justify all of this while taking away first amendment rights for everybody else.
Nah, you the baddies, hun
Can you give an example outside American politics?
Maybe I’m against the grain here but shouldn’t biological parents be on the birth certificate?
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Mine does not, it shows my parents who have legal custody over me, they are not lgbtq+. That is what a birth cert shows, the people who have legal custody and responsibility for you.
If they cared about that, they would make a law that forces all newborns and their ‘parents’ to submit to a DNA test before issuing a certificate. This is just being done to make it harder for LGBTQ+ parents to have the same rights and responsibilities as straight parents. Not being named on your kid’s birth certificate makes things so much harder when dealing with government programs and even enrolling in school or taking them to the doctor.
I imagine you think this because of medical things (heredity and all that) AFAIK It isn’t used for such things, only for legal responsibility (adoption for instance would modify it), so in order to protect the position of those who actually raise the kid and the stability of their family, I don’t agree with you. Not without changing the role of the birth certificate first at least
They definitely should.
mah, their parents should be on there.
On a BIRTH certificate? No! That will only lead to a lot of problems in the future for the unlucky kid. Imagine kid’s bio parents have some hereditary disease and without them on a BIRTH certificate doctors will never know. No. Just no.
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Exactly. When a family is going to travel and the only ID a young child has so far is their birth certificate not having the parents names on it presents some large problems. Imagine they are going through some form of security check, maybe at a border or maybe in a hospital after an injury, how does having someone other than parents names help? All that serves is to create a situation in which the family can be pulled apart. Even parents that got married but kept their own last names have this to consider when a child takes the dad’s last name but the mom wants to travel with her kids and they don’t share the same last name. Having the full form birth certificate identifies that everyone is who they say they are and supposed to be together.
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I think the term “birth certificate” needs to be renamed
Looks like the motherland of fascism is moving back in time…
Not surprised with the new government.
I had such a raw disgust reading that headline. I wondered what fucking state would do that. Then I got to the end. So Italy is just speed running to open fascism. That sucks.
It’s gonna get worse and they’re gonna do more in other countries too, especially as climate change kicks in, everyone starves and they need someone to blame.
Fascism moment
That’s fucking terrible
This is horrible. :(
If they want the biological parents names, just do a DNA test on every baby. I am sure the upstanding straight citizens of Italy always know who the actual father is in every case and would be willing to submit that to public record.
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