• The Dark Lord ☑️@lemmy.ca
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    11 months ago

    It would be pretty funny for a court to actually determine that a “just business” is synonymous with “doing evil”

    • Hotzilla@sopuli.xyz
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      11 months ago

      In general I think business is not good or evil. They just operate on law frameworks given to them.

      If company can be 30% more efficient by being more “on the edge” of law and regulation, it is more probably going to succeed.

      This is why governments must regulate the hell out of everything, because the system itself is not doing it. It should include data protection, unions, environment etc.

  • deegeese@sopuli.xyz
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    11 months ago

    Can’t fool me, they gave it away when they removed “Don’t be evil” from their motto back in 2015.

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      11 months ago

      The first time I saw the slogan all I could think is “a normal not-evil person doesn’t need to make such a disclaimer”.

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      11 months ago

      They were already evil at that time so honestly it was refreshingly honest when they dropped it

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      11 months ago

      Lol, how simplistic do you have to be to believe this means anything? First off, you need to believe in good and evil, which are completely arbitrary. And do you think they thought “hmm, we need to start doing evil things do extract more profit… Change the motto so everybody knows! But then we’ll pretend to not be evil when confronted about this change…”

      Maybe being evil would be to not change the motto and start doing evil acts anyway. Simpler answer is that somebody probably thought it was a stupid thing to have on there in the first place, and was likely thought up by a Cheeto stained LOTR neckbeard.

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        11 months ago

        “Good and evil are arbitrary” mfers when I chop off their balls and feed them to their kids because I wanted to:

      • Moobythegoldensock@lemm.ee
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        11 months ago

        They started deemphasizing the motto when they became a conglomerate in 2015, and removed it completely in 2018 after employees started getting fired for criticizing Google’s shady dealings with the Customs and Border Protection Agency.

        Essentially, the employees argued that Google including “don’t be evil” in their contracts made them ethically obligated to speak up against bad behavior, and they didn’t actually want that. So it appears Google did indeed have a definition of “evil,” and when forced to choose between changing their practice or their definition, they chose the latter.

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        It’s what is known as a canary statement. Taken from when miners used to take canaries into the mines so that the bird would die first if there was toxic gas.

        If the canary is dead, something is wrong. Google had it in their mission statement to not do bad things, then that was quietly removed. The canary is dead.

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        11 months ago

        So what you’re saying is that driving a rusty nail through your eyeball into your brain isn’t evil at all, and totally fine to do?

  • Boogiepop@lemmy.world
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    11 months ago

    Is profit at any cost morally irresponsible?

    No, it’s the consumers who are wrong.

  • Flying Squid@lemmy.world
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    11 months ago

    Ah, so that’s why they changed their slogan from “don’t be evil” to “don’t not be a business.”

    • The Barto@sh.itjust.works
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      11 months ago

      I think that’s what he’s trying to hide behind, all business is evil so we’re just doing business things.

  • m13@lemmy.world
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    11 months ago

    Capitalism is a curse that instills the most evil traits in all of humanity.

  • RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world
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    11 months ago

    No, businesses are people. Corporations have fought to make that a distinction. So therefore it can be evil. Can’t have it both ways.

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    11 months ago

    Good argument for dismantling Google and any other company of similar size.

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      11 months ago

      It takes people (souls) for a business to exist.

      some people are evil.

  • crusa187@lemmy.ml
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    11 months ago

    “Hey man, just doing our job to maximize shareholder value”