Edit: good to see I woke the shills

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    Have you tried taking a loan out on anything lately? Minimum 8% interest rate for someone with the best credit score imaginable. I know doctors and engineers who refuse to buy a house right now because we had an incompetent senior citizen decide to hand out free money several times when the country was shut down and burn money on pointless foreign conflicts that we have absolutely no business being in. This country was prospering when Trump was in office and it will when he’s reelected next year.

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      What? Trump handed out more stimulus checks than Biden. Then there was the whole pay day loan fiasco that was rampant with corruption and fraud with absolutely no oversight.

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      Did you read through those lists?

      That’s a seriously myopic response.

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        I did, and it’s just a list of him spending exorbitant amounts of tax payer money on the most random infrastructure projects. Bidens like the grandparent who goes out of their way to spoil their grandkids, there’s nothing wrong with it up to a certain limit, but if we just let them be in charge of our finances we’re all screwed. A Republican presidency is necessary to balance out the overspending of a liberal socialist president.

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          You obviously didn’t, if you’re still spouting trump’s talking points.

          Or you actively want fascism, since he’s dropped the mask, finally. So which is it – are you being wilfully ignorant, or ready to be an open fascist? He’s making his stance perfectly clear. We can all see it now.

          If you’re still willing to defend that… I want to say I pity you, but I can’t. Fascism will lose, hard this time. We’re onto it. We see it for what it is.

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            I’m simply a centrist constitutionalist, which is the farthest thing from a fascist.

            I’m not going to vote for a president that consistently attacks my right to bear arms with a new law anytime a mass shooting pops off.

            And I’m not willing to vote for a president that keeps on funding Israels genocide on Palestinians. Trump has already said he wouldn’t get involved in any foreign conflicts which is much more than Biden has done thus far.

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              I get you wanting that one thing. As a libertarian, it’s all about you, and nobody’s going to change your mind because you know best. Good for you.

              Meanwhile, people with social empathy (that’s the actual definition of ‘woke’, by the way) will vote for all of your rights, not just the 2A. We want you to have full rights to your body and life, even if you hate us for it.

              I want your children to grow up in a world where they’re safe and happy. One in which they can make all the own decisions after they’ve benefited from the best education and healthcare this first-world country can offer them. One in which they’re truly free. – intellectually, economically, and socially.

              And despite what republicans and libertarians cry about, I will vote every time for people who will make that happen. And that’s never been republicans or libertarians. They’re lying to you. They’ve always lied to you, because they want power over you, and to get that power, they make you afraid.

              I am not afraid. I refuse to be afraid. I’ve seen all of society – I’ve been homeless, and I’ve been at the pinnacle of a white collar career. My family had a beach house in Mexico in the 80s when tourism wasn’t much of a thing there. I hitchhiked across the US in the late 80s. I’ve seen some shit.

              You’re being lied to. It hurts to admit, I get that. But some very savvy politicians are making you angry and scared on purpose. Please stop letting them do that to you.

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                I hope they listen to you. Chances are though, they have no interest in being swayed. The reason they are like this is they think they are more clever than all the rest. They have made their contrarian belief a part of their identity and abandoning that would cause them to have to change who they are.

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                  Honestly, most of these people can’t be reasoned with. Even psychiatrists are saying it’s not worth trying at this point.

                  I was bored, but if you’re going to engage, I’ve learnt a few things:

                  1. Acknowledge you’re not going to change their mind, especially in online discussions.

                  2. If you must engage, talk to the audience reading, not to the person debating you. Then acknowledge you won’t change their minds either.

                  3. Every reply must be shorter than their last. Never try to out-talk them. They won’t read it, and you’re just giving them ammunition.

                  4. If you really, really have to engage, know when to stop.

                  I have a problem with #4 lol

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              centrist constitutionalist

              One comment after you called Biden

              liberal socialist president

              You’re not a centrist. You’re either arguing in bad faith or unaware that you’ve already drank ALL the koolaid. You’re echoing every single Republican talking point and dismissing all evidence to the contrary without actually reading it.

              The infrastructure spending you’re being so dismissive of is a CRITICAL investment in our nation’s health that has been neglected by the last 50 years of for-profit governance and it passed with bipartisan support.

              Inflation is nuts all over the world and not even remotely within Biden’s control. Interest rates are high because of a) COVID and the related supply chain disruptions, b) extreme corporate greed and, c) corrections for years of Trump artificially suppressing the federal rate despite numerous advisors telling him it needed to be raised.

              If you’re genuinely concerned about the constitution and your rights, take a look at all the unconstitutional the things Trump has already explicitly said he would do if re-elected. There is no center position anymore. If you don’t oppose Trump, you support fascism.

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              I’m not going to vote for a president that consistently attacks my right to bear arms with a new law anytime a mass shooting pops off.

              Ok…

              “I like taking the guns early, like in this crazy man’s case that just took place in Florida … to go to court would have taken a long time,” Trump said at a meeting with lawmakers on school safety and gun violence.

              “Take the guns first, go through due process second,” Trump said.

              https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/376097-trump-take-the-guns-first-go-through-due-process-second/

              Still voting for Trump? He doesn’t even want a new law. He just wants to take away people’s guns.

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              The US has no centrists.

              Democrats are right wing.

              Republicans are far right wing.

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                This is a stupid canard. Obviously the US has centrists relative to its own domestic politics, and obviously that’s what the idiot above is referring to.

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      Interest rates are high because of inflation. It’s high in Europe as well.

      Do you know the number one reason inflation is high? It rhymes with “Shmutin invading Ukraine”.