America is distracted, the UN is not interested
America is distracted
Ah, being America; you’re the bad guy when you interfere in other countries and you’re also the bad guy when you don’t interfere in other countries. The same people criticizing America for not doing anything today will turn around and start criticizing America for what they did, no matter what it was, if they get involved tomorrow. Everything you touch is your fault and everything you don’t touch is also your fault.
Maybe, just maybe, America shouldn’t be expected to insert itself into a Sudanese civil war. Maybe, just maybe, Middle Eastern and African powers should come together to deal with humanitarian crises in their own region and America should be, at most, a partner providing assistance only if and when requested.
The problem is they always meddle for the wrong reasons. Nobody would be bothered if they helped in humanitarian ways.
Mostly it’s been:
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Cause civil war to put up a corrupt dictator that will let them pilfer the countries ressources
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Occupy the country themselves and pilfer the ressources while ignoring the needs of the population
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Fund Israel or the Saudis brand new corpse making machine.
So ya, the US probably should help because they can and it’s morally the right thing to do, but they shouldn’t help like they “helped” Bagdad.
That’s not true. Tankies love to shit on the US for “meddling” in Africa when a lot of the time its providing funding and weapons for regimes where the opponents are funded by Russia/Wagner/China. Depending on which way the wind blows, the US is either “overthrowing a legitimate regime” or “restoring the democratic process”.
It’s a no win. Africa is too weak to stabilize by itself after centuries of meddling, and if the US goes hands-off, Russia and China will just economically enslave them via predatory loans, like how neoliberal policies economically enslaved South/Central America to the US. I’d trust the US installed people for their own populace over Chinese/Russia installed people, given the respective human rights records of all involved.
Anyways, while 2003 onwards was a huge fuck up and absolutely abhorrent, Desert Shield/Storm was incredibly justified defending an ally under armed occupation and still gets shit on by Tankies.
One man’s humanitarian mission to shut down a warlord is another man’s mission to overthrow a regime and install US-friendly government.
2003 onward was shit, but before that with what they did in south and central America was pretty shit too. They also always fund the group that will let them grab the ressources, it’s never about which group has the best moral position or what’s best for the local population. There’s better ways to help than funding a civil war, wars that are usually orchestrated into being by them anyways.
Being against American imperialism does not equal being a tankie and I resent the implication. Not everyone that disagrees with you is a tankie.
Stop trying to make tankie work, it’s not really a thing since everyone uses it in different ways and means different things. North Korea, Russia and especially China would be tankies, since they use tanks to oppress their people like authoritarians do.
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Let’s honestly just gtfo of all these shitty countries and fix our own, please…
America should invade America. They have oil and a lack of democracy.
This is exactly what’s going to happen if Trump wins, and he won’t be bringing democracy.
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In my experience the people saying “America should help” are almost always Americans.
I agree that the world should pay far more attention but this is an unfair characterization of the UN.
First of all, the UN are putting out regular updates and Sudan’s UN coordinator thinks they have got the main players to agree to dialogue:
The resident U.N. humanitarian coordinator for Sudan, said on Friday that the beligerants committed to establishing a Humanitarian Forum, with U.N. participation.
Secondly UNHCR are also trying to deal with a cholera outbreak in Sudan at the moment and literally just sent the 6th flight of humanitarian aid:
The plane delivered more than 33 metric tonnes of supplies for cholera response, including medicines, laboratory supplies and equipment, as well as reproductive health kits for the UN Population Fund (UNFPA).
Edit: plot twist: it’s just been revealed that Sudan is telling the UN to leave.
They aren’t white so people don’t care.
Edit: downvote me all you want, you fucking know I’m right. I didn’t say it was a good thing…
You know that Palestinians and Jews aren’t considered „white“, right?
Jews can be white-passing and Israelis live a quality of life similar, if not better, than most Americans.
Seeing Israelis get killed is almost like seeing Europeans or Americans getting killed. People from Europe and America knew people who were killed in Israel. I know people, who knew people that were killed in Israel (none myself.)
I don’t know a single person who even knows anyone in Sudan. Like it or not, these relationships will affect a nations response to global crises.
I know many Sudanese people in Australia, I’ve never met an Israeli person.
Hello, I’m an Israeli person
But yea, most Israeli Jews are not Ashkenazi and actually are Mizrahi jews, you can Google it if you feel like it.
Israel has a sizeable Western immigrant population. 20% of Jewish Israelis are from America and Europe.
^ this - people keep making this assumption and it’s tiring. None of the groups involved in the conflict have European origin. Having diaspora that migrated to Europe ≠ being European or white
You can trip and fall all you want on the barriers to understanding what I said, that you’ve placed in front of your own way, but I think it was pretty clear what I meant.
Go ahead and pretend all that you want, that black people get equal treatment, and that still won’t make it come true.
If you have any friends, go ask them about each of these locales, and wonder why your friends know less about the Sudanese then the Israelis. Is it because maybe isrealis are intrinsically tied to western society via the biblical relationship??? Omg don’t trip dude! Everything is equal don’t forget!!
Get some reading comprehension and contextual creativity of thought please.
White people only care about themselves. they enact special laws and measures and pour in billions of dollars to welcome Ukrainian refugees even at the expanse of local population, but turn a blind eye to the same suffering of people from other races. Big hypocrites with shameless faces.
The difference is that Sudan depends on food imports from Russia and Ukraine and no one depends on imports from Sudan. If Russia and Ukraine are fighting, Sudan is dying from famine. If Sudan is fighting, no one is affected.
there’s a limit to how many things you can actively care about and it’s logical that people will care more about events that are nearer to them
