• Fredselfish@lemmy.world
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      Yep Obama did jackshit when Snowden came out under his administration and told us all that the US was spying on all Americans.

      Fuck Democrats and Republicans are fine with this unconstitutional bullshit. Especially Biden who voted for the Patriot Act and the Iraq War.

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        He even wrote the precursor to the Patriot act which it was based off of and bragged about it.

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        Voted for the Patriot Act? That mother fucker wrote it. When he first wrote it during Reagan’s Presidency it was too far to the right for even Reagan.

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            I’m betting you dont know half of what he’s done. If you did you would never consider casting a vote for him or his party that’s allowed it all to happen.

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              What’s my alternative? Only person on the ballot will be Trump. So if I want retain my right to vote Biden will be my only choice because we got to keep Trump out and all Republicans.

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                So, let me get this straight.

                Given a choice between evil Pinocchio (this time with international strings!) and a violently orange water balloon filled to bursting with bull’s shit, you’d chose the wooden puppet to throw at the massive human rights abuse apparatus currently fucking everyone’s data up the ass?

                Let me know how that goes for you.

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              I’ll vote Biden because I know at the end of his term he’ll leave office.

              I’ll take that over the uncertainty of trump who will surely be on the ballot. Not to mention, as a person whose just come out this year, I’m not confident I’d be safe under a trump presidency.

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                Pure hyperbole. As someone that’s been out for 38 years I can confideantly say your safety isn’t dependent on who’s in the WH.

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      You do understand that if we don’t get the lesser evil we get the more evil right? It’s not like if discourage voting enough we default to a communist leader.

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          Ya, sometimes I comment/reply not with the goal of changing the person I’m replying to, but maybe somebody reading our conversation will think a bit before giving up the game to the fascists just because Biden isn’t a comrade.

          There are many good hearted people on Lemmy that have delusions of successul revolution and are putting vulnerable people at risk with their perfectionism.

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          “…when the outcome is all the same” maybe to you, that’s the definition of privilege. I’m a trans woman, my well being is directly connected to who wins, and I’m not the only vulnerable one.

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            What exactly have Dems at the federal level done to insure or expand your protections? Doing nothing to prevent harm is the equivalent of doing harm

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              You must be young, I transitioned 20 years ago and there have been many many laws passed and repealed and passed again regarding transgender people. Consistently over the decades one party is looking to make life for transgender people difficult and dangerous, the other party is often making laws protecting transgender people, or at least not enacting sadistic laws out of pure hate.

              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transgender_rights_in_the_United_States

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                Im not young, but the question still remains, what have democrats at the national level done to protect you? All it appears theyve done is use our community as human shields to prevent criticism of their shitty policies.

                Everything in the link you provided is a states rights issue, nothing federal, even marriage was kicked back to the states by dems last year