Toyota boasts new battery technology with 745-mile range and 10-minute charging time — here’s how it may impact mass EV adoption::The potential to significantly reduce pollution could be huge.

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    1 year ago

    It’s a battery, they can probably forgo a lot of the usual testing since it’s only necessary to match voltage performance requirements.

    In theory, it could also be used to replacing existing vehicles batteries as well.

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      They can’t bypass certifications

      They’ve also been pushing hydrogen and not working on BEVs while everyone else was working on BEVs

      I like your optimism, but this is just marketing fluff that won’t come to market on that timeline

      I don’t know if the journalist didn’t understand, or Toyota lied, but it’s not happening by 2028

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        What certification does it need other than be certified by Toyota for use?

        You’re right it’s unlikely to happen, but not for any technical or testing reasons like you claimed. If Toyota wants to make it be able to replace existing ones, it’s entirely possible. There’s nothing stopping them other than the battery technology not being able to be the same formfactor for performance.

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          Then Toyota has some magic power that all the other car companies I work with don’t

          I know Tesla plays fast and loose with NHTSA regulations, but I doubt Toyota will

          This battery technology will have to pass safety inspections, just as Li-ion

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            1 year ago

            Test it in existing vehicles, can even do it discretely without the public knowing. Also can be done in lab as well.

            Why would it be magic to make a replacement battery, and how would they be playing fast and loose?

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              If they had the ability to test it in a vehicle, they would be shouting about it from the hills rather than this “maybe it might be possible” report that keeps getting shared

              It would be magic to get it into a vehicle in 2028. Every other car manufacturer has finalized their designs past that by now, and aren’t going to risk such a massive change this late in the design process

              This is part of why the infotainment systems in cars tend to suck. They’re finalized about 6 years before the car goes to market

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                Once they have a functional prototype they can do all that, they still have 5 years. As a replacement battery you could retrofit it to any vehicle, so the model year is totally irrelevant.

                Some vehicles you’re able to update the infotainment system to more recent version, so maybe not the best example.

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                  I don’t know how else to explain to you that you have to have a street legal vehicle to sell from the factory.

                  You’re welcome to mod your car, and you probably won’t have issues, but that’s not how it works for new vehicles

                  The 2022-2027 model year of one of the biggest manufacturers is using a chipset from a phone from 2016 in their infotainment. Yeah, you’ll get some minor updates, but they’ve recently cancelled any more major updates since the chip is dead. And it’ll still go into cars until the next unit they designed last year enters production in 2028

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                    1 year ago

                    Of course you do. Why would Toyota making a replacement battery to change out in production make it not street legal?

                    Nonono. You can swap infotainment 4 for infotainment 5 for example, OEM as well. Nothing minor about that, even comes with trim plates. I don’t know what point you thought you were making with a very real OEM replacement on existing vehicles. If anything it reinforces my point that it’s entirely possible.