Reddit updates look after rough 6 months and ahead of reported IPO::“Edit: Obligatory ‘F— Spez’ for karma.”
reposting one of the worst things i’ve ever heard someone say:
“There’s a lot of stuff on the site that you’d only ever say in therapy, or AA, or never at all … But we don’t need to give all of that value to some of the largest companies in the world for free.”
eat my ass spez
Yay explicit exploitation of the most vulnerable in a community. Lots of this is cartoonishly evil.
Yeah… I don’t know if the person you’re mentioning meant productive stuff or not, but I was in a pretty niche community there. One where parents were dealing with their kids on operating tables, but not often. It was as exactly the kind of thing internet forums were made for: medical advice from doctors, venting and whatnot from strangers who’d been there. I said a lot of practical helpful things and a lot of meaningless nice platitudes at the right time.
And I was happy to do it the same way I swapped guitar tabs as a kid.
There’s honest money in making a community space.
There’s no honest money in monetizing a community.
I dont have any direct experience with reddit any longer.
What I can say, is that I think a verrrrrrry significant portion of comments and commenters are actually reddit run bots. My source for this is my experience in the daily thread of a certain degenerate gambling forum. There were maybe like 12-30 posters who would reply, engage, etc… in the daily and day after threads. However, there was a yyyyyuuuuugggge number of accounts that would just comment with no real further engagement. Like you would respond to them, but they wouldnt respond back.
I truly believe that reddits internal business model is predicted on the use of reddit run bots to create synthetic engagement in certain audiences around marketing targets that a selective group of advertisers (read, not buying reddit ads) are given access to. The basics is that reddit astroturfs synthetic engagement until organic engagement takes over. I have no way of proving this and its pure speculation.
This is why I don’t even worry about considering the user numbers on lemmy. Relying on my anectdotal experience, we’ve got about the usership/ engagement numbers from around the 2009-2011 time period, which is actually pretty amazing. Also, the overall lemmy experience is far superior, for example, just the ability to sort by a couple of different ‘hot’ options is a major improvement. I really think if the devs just keep vibing on their plan, lemmy will be more than strong enough to survive and continue for decades to come.
The fact is that reddit stole from us our faith in a ‘good internet’. The users of reddit built reddit, not the company that owns it (they suck). The users of reddit paid for the server time and made the system work. That good faith was utterly exploited by the leadership of reddit and we should never forget how they stole from and exploited their community.
It’s not just speculation on your part.
How it started:
https://www.themarysue.com/reddit-fake-account-origins/
How it’s going:
You’re absolutely right about most of it. My only criticism is the first paragraph as I am notorious for just commenting and not responding. Literally if you reply I won’t respond lol but I can’t imagine I’m the only one. A better way to sniff them out would be profiling them and finding things like hobby subs where they would be significantly more likely to comment vs addiction subs where they may feel some shame in interacting or engaging in their addiction.
I’m pretty stupid so I could be talking out my ass but I figured input for data collection and such.
That’s what caught my eye too. I rarely, if ever, respond to someone who’s responded to a comment I’ve made, especially if they’re arguing or trying to correct me. And that’s if I’ve even bothered to go back and check it.
Not that you’ll ever see my reply to your comment…
I am not saying you are wrong, but when I was active on Reddit I rarely checked my mail. I still have like 12k unread messages.
That’s quite a weird way to use…any account.
Yo you might’ve dropped this, King 👑. This post is the best way of putting into words my thoughts on the matter that I’m too smoothbrained to formulate into creation. Especially the last paragraph, the theft of “good Internet”. Fuckin A, m8
Oh oh… can we look forward to another wave of reddit leavers after inevitable changes to the site to please investors?
Anyone who didn’t leave when old.reddit.com stopped being the default isn’t going to leave over any other redesigns. They couldn’t possibly be worse.
The fall of Digg didn’t happen in one single wave.
Lots of people just want to stay with what they’re familiar with, and it takes loss of critical mass of content/interaction before they’ll look at the door.
It took an annoying girl in Uni, who was like 6 years younger than me, pestering me why I would still used Digg when reddit existed. I finally checked it out and never looked back. Then a couple years later everyone else I knew was on here.
Honestly, dark theme is how they got me with that one. Haven’t used the site aside from search results since the API changes went live but I like to think I’d leave if a new redesign was worse.
I mean … that’s almost certainly what’s going to happen to some degree
See, we made the holes in the d’s look like little talking bubbles. We’re not evil. We’re cuuuuuute. Money please!
Reddit: I’ve done nothing wrong, ever, in my life.
At least Spez said racism and hate speech are allowed on the platform
Which Spez claimed Reddit used to be against so character growth I guess
At least they didn’t rename themselves to “Y” I guess… Though that would be mildly hilarious.
Spez is some kind of musk fanboy iirc so
Yeah that’d check out…
Fuck spez I used that reddit for years. However you can only be fucked over so much.
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Up until day one past IPO.
And that’s the day I completely stop using the site.
I’ve still been using it for technical stuff, because there’s a absolute shitload of extremely valuable and informative content on a bunch of engineering- and tech-oriented subs, but a lot of the users who were involved with that seem to be switching here, and a lot of THOSE users have applied scripts to nuke all comments on their account, so it’s steadily becoming less valuable and more out of date. That said, it’s a bummer that that the knowledge base contained in those communities are largely going to seed.
What if we, “the users”, contributed to a decentralized platform and built that knowledge base up instead?
This allows us to place the R word as basically an archive of the time period as it shouldn’t have much more intellectual growth.
That’s exactly what I was alluding to when I said a lot of the users in those Reddit subs were migrating here
They killed .compact a while ago.
I looked at reddit today, it looks like ass. Not nice ass either.
Everyone here is on copium, not gonna lie.
Reddit isn’t going to die. Honestly it has 1000x more content than lemmy.
Lemmy has a place and so does reddit.
I still browse reddit, simply because the size of the communities I want to visit is much larger there. My browsing is however confined to the mobile page in Firefox, which is slow, clunky, and breaks frequently, which means my reddit usage is down by something like 99%. Lemmy has the sync app, and without the app I wouldn’t be here. Browsing Lemmy before it was awful.
Also, I kinda like that Lemmy is smaller. There’s much less noise, less of an algorithm feel to browsing. It feels slightly more like the internet I grew up with in the 90s and 00s, and I kinda missed that.
The throwback feel really is an intangible value add that means it might not catch on for younger folks but damn it does feel good.
honestly I think the opposite. from what a younger sibling has told me, old is new and the current trends in TikTok and stuff seem to be younger people wanting physical media, non flat design back, the old internet and etc. gives me hope at least.
I go back for sports communities because they’re still active enough on reddit for back and forth during live games, but literally yesterday on the hockey sub people were talking about how there’s less content. API changes meant less autoposted game highlights and it even seems there’s less back and forth on the game day threads. Now it depends a lot on the team these days.
Size has some pretty big advantages.
In particular, it feels like lemmy is mostly memes and news.
While on reddit, you can have productive discussions about the internals of the Haskell compiler, or ask questions to actual historians. Niche subreddits having a quorum of experts to actually have discussions about stuff was always the best part about reddit. And that part has always been sadly lacking from lemmy because of size.
TIL not supporting businesses you don’t agree with = being on copium.
Guess I better go buy Nestle products again.
No I think that’s fine, it’s just I see people thinking that reddit is literally dying, which is just not the case.
Fuck spez
Has he tried publicly spouting fringe fascist conspiracy theories yet? No? Give it time…
Good riddance to reddit. Haven’t been on it since the API pricing kicked in.
As soon as copious amounts of money are involved, you see the change. I never even used the 3rd party Reddit apps, but when money made OG Reddit act like a dick towards them, I peaced out. Sorry Reddit, but I think you’ll eventually be Digg. And I have no interest in sticking around for that.
“Edit: Obligatory ‘Fuck Spez’ for karma.”
“I’m mad as hell and I’m not gonna take it any more!”
i still use reddit a lot of comunities havent left and my god the amout of bots now is insane entire threads are coppied with 1 year 6 month old acounts with zero history and what i think is ai spam from simualr acounts its a mess over there now what brainless idiot is letting this happen
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