Discord users are cancelling their Nitro after new mobile layout update::undefined

      • Prethoryn Overmind@lemmy.world
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        11 months ago

        Make it 70. I am a Nitro sub actually make it 40 I have 3 other friends that are as well. Well now technically 30 because I have an additional friend in Sweden who pays for it. I have fiber my friends and I stream games the higher streaming quality is worth it. I also use Vencord to add some additional features.

        More people pay for things that I think are given credit for. I don’t mind spending money on a product I enjoy with my friends.

        • GregorGizeh@lemmy.zip
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          11 months ago

          While I agree that you should buy the things you enjoy to keep them around, throwing money at every service and application on your computer just because you use them often is exactly why everything turns to shit. Subscriptions for everything. You will own nothing, and you will like it.

  • rockSlayer@lemmy.world
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    11 months ago

    Personally, I think the update is a genuine improvement. Everything is more intuitive, and labels for the UI was very much needed.

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      11 months ago

      Yeah, same. I didn’t even touch the friends tab at all, so having it as DMs works better for my purposes. But Discord is trying to be the app for so many purposes I’m not surprised people are upset by a major UI change and having it be different to the desktop layout.

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        works better for my purposes

        For yours, not others. That’s kind of the crux of the issue with most UI changes nowadays. They’re made for the “average user” and the average user has the most basic needs, utilizes few advanced options, and takes advantage of the least functions. They don’t even glance at the settings menu.

        And when your primary goal developing software is to serve that audience, you will end up inevitably prioritizing aesthetic over functionality over time, until you’ve got…well, until you’ve got the reddit mobile app.

        “Look pretty, do less”

        And every time you do that, you’re pissing off your power users a little more.

        As with most issues with UI changes, they could be solved by giving the user options to customize their experience to their needs, but the idea of customizable UI is verboten nowadays for consumer apps.

    • Evilcoleslaw@lemmy.world
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      11 months ago

      I dislike a couple things – swipe to reply in general, hiding the server member list within search, and the way they laid out the new tab that combined DMs and friends list. Making the friends list horizontal profile pictures to scroll through is just annoying. Other than that it’s fine.

    • NoisyFlake@lemm.ee
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      11 months ago

      Yeah, it finally feels like a mobile app that you can use without having to know the layout of the desktop version first. A friend of mine that never used the desktop app really struggled with basic tasks on the old mobile app.

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      11 months ago

      Yes, it finally makes some goddamn sense. It’s still awful, but I find it genuinely easier to find the things I want.

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    11 months ago

    Every time I open discord it just generates popups about features.

    Its fucking annoying.

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    Odd, I was pretty happy when I got the update. I always thought it was odd that servers and PMs were mixed somewhat in the UI, and hard to distinguish between.

    People just don’t like things being different than they were ig.

    Or is there another change I didn’t notice that had people bothered?

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      11 months ago

      I don’t dislike all the changes but the removal of the left swipe gesture to access current channel information and pinned message is a huge negative change to me.

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      Before it was better because all of the messages were in one place.

      I mostly use discord for dms and now for some reason I have to switch to a different tab to access them, it’s annoying and unnecessary.

      App is also slower now.

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      11 months ago

      The two big problems for me are (1) increased slowness and lag, and (2) phantom notifications (a red 10 dot in the bottom notifications but I click in and see that it’s empty)

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      11 months ago

      Been a while since I used the new thing, immediately hated it. All on mobile.

      First of a, the bottom scroll thing on my phone to select a server or whatever it was just ain’t it. I didn’t use it much, but it seemed extremely annoying to move between dm and servers, especially if they weren’t the top ones. You can get lists and such by swiping.

      Second was that server channels turned into a huge mess. Showing the last message makes absolutely no sense on any server I use. Especially on bigger game server like destiny group finding one’s already long lists turned into miles long lists. Absolutely unusable. I need things compact and clean personally, having the channels big and wide wastes so much space, and again long lists.

      Being in a server hides any notifications and dms too.

      Everything that was close at hand before is now far away. And that sucks for me.

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      11 months ago

      “PMs and servers were hard to distinguish with”

      Uh, no they weren’t.

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    11 months ago

    I always initially hate UI changes, will make my decision in a few days if I like it

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      11 months ago

      Look at you with your emotional maturity and introspection. Not sure you fit this place! :)

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        11 months ago

        Oh look, we’ve finally hit the “this place is full of morons except me and the people who think like me” point. I guess we’re on our way to being a reddit alternative after all.

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          11 months ago

          Exactly! Kneejerk emotional reactions about UI changes are completely mature!

  • the_q@lemmy.world
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    11 months ago

    Discord offers subscriptions and micro transactions in a chat app. This is the future of everything thanks to people going “oh it’s not so bad”.

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        11 months ago

        And who determines how much money they need? Some c-suite asshole who wants a 3rd mansion?

        • danque@lemmy.world
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          11 months ago

          Or the board of rich assholes who do nothing for the company but hold up their hands every quarter.

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            11 months ago

            These people are acting like every company that exists is somehow extracting money from them, even if they aren’t actually paying for it. For someone to ask for money in return for a service is a straight insult to them lol.

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          11 months ago

          They’ll take as much as they can get while providing the bare-minimum in return.

          It’s called “maximizing profit”, and a lot of people in this thread don’t seem to understand that.

          • the_q@lemmy.world
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            11 months ago

            Look at my downvotes… People at bat for a soulless company, ignoring their shitty practices, all because they can’t separate what they think is a good company from a bad one. Capitalism has them all.

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              Jesus christ, relax. Discord isnt some billion dollar revenue stream for people like Elon Musk. Last year it generated $130 million in revenue. The only money they make are from nitro subscribers, otherwise their entire platform is free for you to use. I dont know why you think Discord is a soulless company, especially considering it’s not even publicly traded so doesn’t have to bend to the will of shareholders.

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      11 months ago

      I like nitro for the audio and stream quality benefits. It’s not much money and makes the experience with friends better.

      Doesn’t seem much different than streaming services asking for more for 4k streaming.

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        I have shit internet so the audio and stream quality does matter to me - its the universal emojis and sound board that keeps me paying. I’m not ashamed

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          11 months ago

          Haha the extra sound board slots are a nice perk too. Nothing as satisfying as the John Cena intro when something goes your way in a game.

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        …stream quality is fully controlled by client side.
        you don’t need nitro for streaming at any quality you want to, just any client mod

      • the_q@lemmy.world
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        Then they ask for a little more… Then a little more… This is why Netflix is $20/mo now because not enough people have the will to do without. These companies make you feel as if you’re missing out or that you can’t survive without their services, and when that happens they own you.

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      “oh, at least there are no ads”
      except they’re shoving microtransaction ads literally everywhere.
      Various practices that make you feel like you’re missing out by not buying nitro.
      Profile decoration shop ads almost in every single place.
      There’s even a dedicated nitro gift button on the message bar.

      • dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        What discord client are you using? Mine never hits me up for MTX’s. I know nitro is there, but there’s no intrusive pop ups.

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          Lol, remember when Discord had a birthday for 30 days?

          Reminded me of that Jimmy Neutron episode.

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        Imagine getting peer pressured because of emojis. Seriously if you dont want to shitpost with emojis, you’re not missing anything.

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      Considering how much is free and how much of a better experience it is compared to competitors, yeah, it really is not so bad. The MTX boil down to a few cosmetics and ability to use more bandwidth (ability to upload bigger files, stream in 4K)

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    Wait, the new UI I got yesterday? With the servers and messages finally finally separated? I like it personally. I struggle to find my DMs on the desktop app vs servers and never found the overall UI intuitive. I am usually the first to get upset over UI changes (looking at you Google Messages!), but for once I am happy.

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      One problem I have with it is that it’s harder than ever to get to the members list. You have to click a thing at the top of the screen rather than just swiping from the right.

      Otherwise I’m mostly happy.

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    The UI changes are horrible. They make it so it takes more taps to get to places. Idk who is in charge of that but they need to reevaluate things. Also paying for discord is hilarious. But people unsubscribing is the only way they might roll back.

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      It’s always been a mess. This is imo at least a bit better. Crazy that a company of this size does UI so horribly.

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    huh, I opted into the new layout months ago. I got use to it quickly.

    Edit: I went back to discord to find the server tray/drawer the beta had disappeared. If this is the final version, I’m surprised people are upset. The drawer was the most radical change.

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      Reading this, I just switched to see as well. That drawer was atrocious UX, and the new design without it is actually pretty good.

      I don’t find myself getting frustrated with having to tap repeatedly to do anything, and the separation of DMs and servers is cleaner and more intuitive than the old layout where they were mixed together.

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        well the drawer sounds nice in theory, but the implementation wasatrocious.
        I’m actually not against just putting the server list at the bottom, as discord is basically unusable with single hand atm

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        The only issue I have is not seeing the server channel listings. I’ll get over it but I’m not a fan of that when selecting a channel now. Also in the experimental features they have a thing called like launchpad? I think. I fucking love that guy.

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          After I choose a channel, the sidebar disappears but I can swipe it back into view. I thought it was always like that

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      Yeah I like being able to shitpost with meme emojis from other servers and keep the one platform me and my freeloading friends use, alive. I ain’t going back to Skype and god bless the souls on Teamspeak.

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        You could always switch to Matrix.

        Don’t fool yourself into thinking that you paying for nitro is adding to discord’s longevity.

        You’re just lining the pockets of people richer than you.

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          Definitely won’t have the features I need to shitpost and convince everyone I know to switch. Again.

          And my brother in Christ that is called capitalism and in capitalism if they aren’t profiting they shut it down.

          So yes, ever since I joined Discord three months after public release, I have been contributing to its longevity. I was the weird friend going on campaigns to get the boys to leave Skype. Part of Hypesquad before they shrugged and let everyone in.

          I won’t need Matrix unless Discord implodes or loses touch like Skype.

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    I cancelled my nitro years ago because what exactly is the benefits that I can’t do with being a freeloader? Besides I’m sure they scrape all my data anyways

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    It already took too long to go to DMs from the base screen. They really need the ability to have a favorite list that includes both.