~70%of Americans want a cease fire. Another nail in the democracy coffin. Same thing in Canada less the veto. Our governments are beating to a different drum that is not the voice of the people they supposedly represent.
Where are you getting this 70% number from? Did they do a national vote on the topic? Or maybe it’s just a pulling number you read somewhere and now parrot without source.
Hardly a nail in any coffin. This is exactly how representative democracy works. You vote for someone to represent you in the government. Those someone’s collaborate to the best of their ability to make policies and decisions. Don’t like their policies and decisions. Vote for someone else.
This has some interesting numbers. Says 61% want a permanent ceasefire. But after hearing arguments for and against, the number moved down to 52%.
Hardly a nail in any coffin
This is the important point. The “see your leaders didn’t do perfectly so you should ditch them” is usually followed by “for right-wingers whom you will not need to question because shut up”, and I am really worried when people so quickly give up “passable” solutions for horrible alternatives – and while our governments are effectively two-party systems, the cruel far-right alternatives are usually the only option.
I’d prefer direct voting.
Correction. 70% of people no doubt prefer, in a very abstract way, that Israelis and Palestinians weren’t killing each other. Because innocent civilians dying is bad. But 99% of people don’t “want” a ceasefire if it involves even the slightest amount of effort or concession or cost on their part, nor do they want to dive into the complexities of the Middle East. The quality of that “want” is very, very low. It is more of an abstract preference, really.
Where did you get that 90% figure. Not going to disagree though as it is likely correct but the reality is it is already costing Americans money to not have a ceasefire so unsure your point.
There are lots and lots of polls about Americans wanting a cease fire which range in % but all around 70%. +- 10.
Americans in general have next to no understanding of how aid and funding works, so any poll taken about providing aid or funding is inherently worthless.
People are stupid. That’s why they vote for shit like Trump, Brexit, and cutting military aid to allies.
Well…50% of the population is below average intelligence and they are easy to manipulate and thus are a force to recon.
Gross
This would matter if UN resolutions actually did anything
Of frickinkg course.
I feel like I’m in the twilight zone when people talk about this issue, like people watching all of this and still defending Israel are all living on another fucking planet. Some literally 1984 “war is peace/we’ve always been at war with East Asia” shit.
Did it include releasing hostages?
I feel like there should be a limit on how many times a country can exercise their veto rights, at least.
US has a long history of single-handedly bullying entire UN with their veto power.
Actual question: why in the fuck can the US veto actions by the UN? Can other countries veto as well? Or is it only the US that can do that with the implied threat we’d swing our militaristic dick around or something?
Might is right. Money is power.
Equality is a myth and the rich never lost their control.
Lmao you clearly don’t understand how the UN works, they’re part of the committee they all get to vote for or against
You’re right - I don’t.
That’s why I asked instead :)
Russia has been vetoing peacekeeping forces in Novorossiya since 2014, for example. China has been vetoing investigations into Uyghur genocide too. Also this particular resolution is fucking stupid as is the whole Arab-world sponsored money laundering machine of Palestine rights council of the UN. People don’t understand that “supporting Palestine” is literally the same as supporting Vova, Xi, Kim, Assad and Khamenei since they’re all the same totalitarian terrorist axis.
You’re disgusting.
Come the fuck on. A UN resolution demanding a ceasefire is just symbolic anyway.
Not if it’s from the security council. Security council resolutions are legally binding, whereas GA resolutions are more like suggestions.
It is my sincere hope that one day, the USA may gain Independence from Israel.
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Israel is the 51st state. Everything Israel does is done with US support because they’re part of the same settler-colonial project.
For anyone else wondering “why did the US veto it?” rather than jumping to an emotional reaction, the article explains the US’s position:
U.S. deputy ambassador Robert Wood called the resolution “imbalanced” and criticized the council after the vote for its failure to condemn Hamas’ Oct. 7 attack on Israel in which the militants killed about 1,200 people, mostly civilians, or to acknowledge Israel’s right to defend itself. He declared that halting military action would allow Hamas to continue to rule Gaza and “only plant the seeds for the next war.”
“Hamas has no desire to see a durable peace, to see a two-state solution,” Wood said before the vote. “For that reason, while the United States strongly supports a durable peace, in which both Israelis and Palestinians can live in peace and security, we do not support calls for an immediate cease-fire.”
So some total bullshit.
the United States strongly supports a durable peace,
we do not support calls for an immediate cease-fire.”
Come the fuck on.
Hamas has no desire to see a durable peace, to see a two-state solution
Because Israel does? What a fucking joke. I’m so fucking embarrassed of this country and so fucking sick of being stuck in it.
Oh yeah that totally convinces me to justify the indiscriminate bombing of civilians in Gaza.
Didn’t Hamas break the last two ceasefires? How does the UN expect to enforce such with a literal terrorist organization?
As soon as the ceasefire was announced Pissrael invaded the west Bank and started illegally arresting more people so the ceasefire was called off
I think UN was being antisemitic, so they had to
/s looks like this is needed here
Maybe they should try demanding the full unconditional surrender of Hamas and the release of all hostages first…
