• CALIGVLA@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    10 months ago

    I’ve always found it both weird and ironic that GrapheneOS is only available for Pixel phones when the whole principle of the project is basically “we don’t trust Google”.

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      10 months ago

      The pixel device is (as far as I’m aware) the only mainstream device that allows you to re-lock the boot loader.

      Otherwise, once a phone is cracked, it remains cracked. I’m not entirely sure what that buys, but that’s why they do it

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        10 months ago

        Most brands allow relocking bootloader. But after that you with be only able to use stock rom. Pixel lets you lock the bootloader with a different signature, so in this example you are basically able to lock it to only boot grapheneos and nothing else.

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        Security. You’re caught with your pants down if you have any personal data on a phone with an unlocked bootloader. All data is effectively plaintext, all security is nullified with trivial difficulty. This is the actual worst-case scenario for journalists, whistleblowers, or anyone who is or may become under surveillance for any reason.

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        10 months ago

        They also have an accessible secure element that graphene uses a lot. I’d recommend listening to the podcast interviews with graphene staff

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      10 months ago

      This isn’t true at all. Daniel Micay has stated multiple times the goal isn’t to degoogle, it’s to provide a secure and private OS that’s actually usable. They worked tirelessly to integrate GMS compatibility layer and give users the choice to install sandboxed Google play for app compatability.

      GrapheneOS has said countless times that by using Linux and other open source softwares that Google contributes massive amounts of code, you ARE inherently trusting them to not be malicious https://nitter.1d4.us/GrapheneOS/status/1672998518573740033#m

      Google play does what it says and they are very open about what data they collect, which is obviously a lot. GrapheneOS stops much of this collection through sandboxing, where you can deny any permissions you desire.

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      G provides a phone that is incredibly friendly to developers (as friendly as it can get without free hookers and blow), in all aspects, which makes sense considering they want devs to adopt android as their platform for apps and stuff. This also goes into things like security vulnerabilies/research, and also alternative android-based systems. It’s humorous but not at all ironic. Be friendly to devs, and make money hand over fist because of it.

      It’s logical for both, just for very different motives.