cross-posted from: https://social.fossware.space/post/123876

In the few short hours since I started using #Threads, #DuckDuckGo has already blocked over 200 data tracking attempts. These include things like “headphone status” and “screen density.”

Trackers, trackers and ol’ Zucc’s roboface galore.

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    I just cannot fathom why people would see the shortest that Musk has made of Twitter and think the best solution is to go to a clone made by Zuckerberg. Have they learned nothing?

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      Because fundamentally, people really don’t care about all that much. They want a simple social network that’s vaguely pleasant to use, has the people and content they’re looking for, and otherwise stays out of their way. They certainly don’t care about Musk’s random crusade du jour against the evil woke libs.

      Nor do they particularly care about targeted advertising so long as it remains vaguely unobtrusive and their data isn’t constantly leaked in ways that directly harm them. Zuck, for all his many flaws, is smart enough to know that the single biggest thing he can do is to largely stay out of the way.

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      Because people just submit it. He doesn’t know why. They just trust him. Dumb Fucks.

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        Worse. No one trusts Zuckerberg, they just all figure nothing bad will happen. “He’s got everyone’s data anyway.” They don’t think.

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    No wonder the app is not available in Europe, there is no way that list passes GDPR :P

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      I was honestly wondering what this app is cause I haven’t heard of it.

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    What I hate about this is that they say things like “Try the best to protect users’ privacy” etc then do shits like this

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      Well, they need to know your device rotation to serve you the perfect ads! /s
      Seriously, I wouldn’t mind them knowing a thing or two about me, when I’m using their services. But tracking everything, just because they can, is just obnoxious. If you would translate this to the real world, you would definitely get arrested when you would stand on the corner of the street, noting down everything you see, every dimension/detail of every person walking by. You would be labeled “creep”. But if Facebook does it, governments go like: You can build your new data center right here, don’t mind the measly peasants that currently live in the village nearby

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        Potentially, and Ive also seen it used for ads. The first time Spotify noticed me mute my system and paused the ad, I became enraged. Its’s a step too far. Luckily with external speakers I can just mute at the speaker level instead.

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          If you’re using Spotify on Windows, consider installing a system ad blocker like Adguard for Windows and route Spotify traffic through it. It will strip the ads.

          If you’re using Spotify on Android, consider installing the app through X-Manager, which will give you an ad-free experience.

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            This was at work a few years ago. I don’t use windows at home. But thank you for providing those recommendations. Hopefully a fellow Lemming will find them useful!

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          That’s like that Black Mirror episode where the people are required to keep their eyes open and focused on the screen for everything

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    Facebook I’m only comfortable using inside a browser for this reason, and not with Chrome either. Something proper like Firefox that can block third party cookies and run it in a container automatically so it can’t follow you around. I need to contain the filth.

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      I wouldn’t even type fa in by Firefox without the Facebook containers extension. And yeah, chrome can jam it

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      What kind of addon do you use to contain the tracking cookies on Firefox? I’d really like to get it too.

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        It’s built into Firefox! You don’t need one.

        Click on the shield icon in the upper left (on Desktop) and from there you can get into your tracking protection settings. It also has a dashboard showing what has been blocked. Categories are social media, tracking cookies, tracking content, fingerprinting, and cryptominers. Facebook containers are also built into Firefox on desktop. That feature is called Container Tabs and is in settings also.

        On Firefox for Android, you go to the three dots thing -> Settings -> Enhanced Tracking Protection.

        Most browsers today have something like this built-in because it’s such a problem, except Chrome, because Google is an ad company first and would be shooting their own foot.

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        There is also this official extension. IIRC, this also makes sure that all the meta owned sites are not able to interact with other sites, but can work fine with each other. It also makes sure that any links leading to their sites also only open in the container, maybe also sanitized to remove the tracker from original link. The last part I am not sure, as I might be confusing it with a different extension. But if you are using any of the Meta sites, I would recommend it.

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      No but it needs access to your front camera so it can record your face before and after using threads. They want to see if their engagement algorithms made you mad so then they can tell it’s working

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      Because to find the needle in the haystack, you first need a haystack. Until you know which needle you want to use, you need loads of haystacks which could have the needle in it you need.

      Also, hoarders gotta hoard. (and bastards collect all they can get away with, and more, lots more)

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        Yeah, they probably don’t need all of that info right now, but you never knew when something suddently becomes valuable. Also, the more data they have, the easier to identify you without any trackers like cookies.

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          Basically something like this:

          “The algorithm suggests people who have their phone in landscape more than 28% of the time are more likely to vote for party A. Convincing them not to vote for party A is hard, so we’ll convince them there’s no point voting or make it harder for them to vote, by targeting these users with ads which make them question if their vote matters.”

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      It’s probably more meaningful to ask at this point what data can he collects that he’s not collecting.

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    Jfc man, thanks for the hot tip on the ddg tracker protection! I’ve been using ddg for a while now on the phone and have out some effort into curating apps so most of what I have is private/secure/open source, but I still have a bunch of things like the Netflix app that I know are sketchy. I’ve just gone through every app I have and confirmed things like Jerboa, VLC, antenna pod, etc are all free of trackers. The real fun surorises though were my bank app and my state government services app, which are each on about 45 tracking attempts across 36 categories. The services one even uses two seperste tracker companies. That’s super fun!

    Fuck I’m glad I have this ddg add on now :D

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      Damn duckduckgo app protection is great! I’d never heard about it, installed and turned on now. Good call-out, thank you.

      I encourage others to look this up too!

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        I got it running yesterday after seeing this thread. No noticeable difference to me, very noticeable difference to the online leech companies. I’m a happy camper

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            It’s working great. 36 hours in and more than 33,000 tracking attempts blocked. It’s mind boggling

            And worst offenders are places I wouldn’t have expected, like the docusign app, and being scraped by companies I’ve never heard of like comScore and bugsnag

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                Oh ya you download the browser app, then turn on app tracker blocking in settings. I couldn’t find it at first, but just googled it and the first answer worked. So all ya need is the duckduckgo app. At least, on Android