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Twitter post by Daniel Feldman (@d_feldman): Linux is the only major operating system to support diagonal mode (credit [Twitter] @xssfox). Image shows an untrawide monitor rotated about 45 degrees, with a horizontal IDE window taking up a bottom triangle. A web browser and settings menu above it are organized creating a window shape almost like a stepped pyramid.
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Another funny concept
Hmm yes, web dev horrors beyond my comprehension!
That, right there, is a perfect example of why folks need to stop trying to shoehorn web apps everywhere they don’t belong. It’s a use-case for a proper native mobile app if ever there was one.
even if it’s just mobile
you already have to handle landscape/portrait mode
now imagine having to handle angled
That’s why you should’ve just handled arbitrary rotations instead of inventing a finite predefined set of orientation “modes” in the first place.
Things get a lot easier in the long run if you aggressively look for commonalities and genericize the code that handles them instead of writing bunches of one-off special cases.
And this is why my webapp only renders properly on circular displays.
Peak evil - well done. How much is the extra fee to wrap a letterbox around the circle on a conventional aspect ratio?
There’s good money in this idea!
true
however
everything would be fluid in the layout and you would need to set what should go on top of what. And having this feature doesn’t seem worth the hassle of making if work, or even using it.
Imagine trying to type in a ‘fluid’ keyboard
TBH tho, seems like a cool gimmick for some apps.
Congratulations. In almost 30 years, this is the first thing that finally made me want to throw my phone when I saw it.
Smart phones haven’t existed for 30 years…
I’ve had cell phones for 30 years. Never mentioned anything about them being smart the whole time.
What would you be able to see on a 30 year old cell phone that would make you throw it? A weird number?
i’d like to know what hallucinogen you’re on or neurological damage you have, as you keep responding to things i never said-- i never mentioned a 30 year-old cell phone.
So “in 30 years” you never wanted to throw your non existent cell phone. Your original comment just doesn’t make sense.
It doesn’t make sense to you, because something is very wrong with your brain.
Best of luck with that
Well now i wanna use it(probably works in linix phone?)
Linux phones aren’t supported because it’s an Xorg feature. Usually Linux phones use Wayland for the better (touch) experience. If someone wanted to they could implement it on a Wayland compositor, but given that no other OS I know of supports diagonal mode, I wouldn’t hold my breath.
I almost want it
They put touchscreens on doorstops now? /s
Java truly runs on everything.
Unleash the power of the pyramid!
BRB, sticking microcontrollers to the back of my monitors so I can use their accelerometers to report the orientations in real time…
Now we need triangular windows that reshape in real time when you spin the monitor.
All of the screen elements should settle like sand in an hour glass, but using voxel physics in real time.
That’s would be brilliant. I’m guessing the monitor stands aren’t up for the extra usage they’ll get, though…
Well monitor stands need to keep up
If we can make windows that can reshape themselves to a shape-shifting 4D monitor, Rami-chan will finally be able to run Linux.
Why would you want this?
What if your monitor has a bullet hole you want to avoid looking at?
Why does your monitor have a bullet hole?
Why do you ask so many questions? ಠ_ಠ
Why don’t you answer them?
Because then words like “evidence” and “premeditated” get thrown around.
American schools
I came back to my office after the new year’s break and a stray bullet, from I’m assuming celebratory gunfire, was shot through the wall and hit my screen. Admittedly it wasn’t a hole and the screen was totally unusable after, but I’ll be a close n=1.
Gary Indiana reporting in
You don’t?
AsK yOuR mOm
A good use case for American k-12 IT admins
to display Java class names on a single line
This person gets it
Why would you not?
Can’t argue with that.
It’s a novelty. I for one deeply love unusually shaped monitors and UXs.
(insert image of Mt. Everest)
Because It’s There.
Possibly to run those strangely shaped outdoor billboard signs
Could be useful for an interactive art installation or something alike.
It could be useful if you live in a submarine that is always emerging/submerging.
I thought it was surely just a joke but looking at the devices to the right maybe this was due to limited desk space?
4th nerve palsy posse has been asking for this for years.
It’s not about why. It’s about the freedom to do.
Finally, Peewees Playhouse has found open source representation.
How can you do fractional rotation? Does it only work with x11 or is it also supported in wayland?
Rotating the display by a custom angle is possible through xrandr on X.org.
There’s no Wayland protocol for custom angle rotation, and I don’t expect anyone to create a protocol extension without a use-case.
My wild guess: Theoretically it should be possible for a compositor to support similar custom rotation, as applications simply draw to their surface (window), without knowing how and where it is displayed on the viewport (display).
But it might require quite a bit of work, depending on the project, so I don’t expect to ever see custom rotation on anything besides smaller/niche compositors.
[1] https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/552138/rotate-a-display-by-custom-angle#552140
There’s no Wayland protocol for custom angle rotation, and I don’t expect anyone to create a protocol extension without a use-case.
[gestures at thread] Does this not count??? 😁
Seriously, though: I suspect there might be non-novelty use-cases in mobile devices, especially things like smart watches. Those aren’t beyond the scope of Wayland in the long run, are they?
Ok I was joking with the images but now that I think about it this would likely be pretty useful to have on smart watches with circular displays.
E.g. having the watch face rotating to face towards the wearer would be a pretty neat concept. Definitely something I’d want a toggle for though.
Smart watches tend to be microcontroller class devices because even though you can fit something powerful in there, powering it and heat dissipation make it silly.
The usual embedded-type application for wayland that it’s even especially designed for is automotive: Things without window management but not particularly hardware-restrained. Also think public transit ticket machines, ATMs, such things. In that sense, from wayland’s perspective android is already desktop.
in wayland the compositor is king they can do mhatever they want with the screen
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBLLC5fOy98&list=PLb7YRKEhWEBUIoT-a29UoJW9mhfzjpNle&index=2&pp=iAQB
I was looking into this earlier to try fixing a display that was being offset on an old tv screen. The display was going off the left side of the TV, causing a black bar on the right side.
I was trying
xrandr, and fixed it somewhat by offsetting the display back, but somehow it did not fix the right side - it seemed as if the display had went under the black bar.But yeah you can offset, stretch, skew and rotate with
xrandrThe
--rotate normal,inverted,left,rightdoes not work, but you can use the transform option to achieve the same effect. To create the transformation matrix you can use something like: https://angrytools.com/css-generator/transform/- for translateXY enter half the screen resolution
- don’t copy the generated code, it has the numbers in the wrong order just type out the matrix row wise.
The final command looks like this:
xrandr --output screen-1 --transform 0.87,-0.50,960,0.50,0.87,540,0,0,1To restore the original use (type this in first, because if you screw up you might not be able to see anything anymore):
xrandr --output screen-1 --transform 1,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,1I tested it on x11.
Did you check the actual TV settings? Some of them let you adjust where picture is displayed iirc.
It only had two modes for the VGA source, 16:9 and 4:3. The 16:9 is the right ratio for the laptop but had the offset issue. The 4:3 makes it stretched out / squashed, but it doesn’t have the offset issue.
Who hurt you
Ha~! WebDevs haven’t cared about desktop for years.
Product owners, you mean. They are the ones that determine support level of browser and as a result, what testers focus on. Devs don’t focus on things that aren’t a priority because otherwise they’re working on that on the evenings and weekends free of charge.
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Basically, it’s just some cool X11 magic that uses a matrix transformation to rotate the screen.
I hate this.
What has science done?
There’s no science here.
a great prank for computer labs… just rotate everything by 0.5 degrees…
Yeah, keep adding 0.5 deg every minute or so.
Add a randomizer that has a chance of resetting it back to normal every now and then for maximum chaos
i guess ill have to get linux then, i NEED diagonal mode
This is just pain.
