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Twitter post by Daniel Feldman (@d_feldman): Linux is the only major operating system to support diagonal mode (credit [Twitter] @xssfox). Image shows an untrawide monitor rotated about 45 degrees, with a horizontal IDE window taking up a bottom triangle. A web browser and settings menu above it are organized creating a window shape almost like a stepped pyramid.

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      • grue@lemmy.worldEnglish
        2·
        11 months ago

        That, right there, is a perfect example of why folks need to stop trying to shoehorn web apps everywhere they don’t belong. It’s a use-case for a proper native mobile app if ever there was one.

        • owsei@lemmy.world
          2·
          11 months ago

          even if it’s just mobile

          you already have to handle landscape/portrait mode

          now imagine having to handle angled

          • grue@lemmy.worldEnglish
            2·
            11 months ago

            That’s why you should’ve just handled arbitrary rotations instead of inventing a finite predefined set of orientation “modes” in the first place.

            Things get a lot easier in the long run if you aggressively look for commonalities and genericize the code that handles them instead of writing bunches of one-off special cases.

              • flambonkscious@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
                1·
                11 months ago

                Peak evil - well done. How much is the extra fee to wrap a letterbox around the circle on a conventional aspect ratio?

                There’s good money in this idea!

            • owsei@lemmy.world
              1·
              11 months ago

              true

              however

              everything would be fluid in the layout and you would need to set what should go on top of what. And having this feature doesn’t seem worth the hassle of making if work, or even using it.

              Imagine trying to type in a ‘fluid’ keyboard

              TBH tho, seems like a cool gimmick for some apps.

    • gregorum@lemm.eeEnglish
      71·
      11 months ago

      Congratulations. In almost 30 years, this is the first thing that finally made me want to throw my phone when I saw it.

        • gregorum@lemm.eeEnglish
          2·
          10 months ago

          I’ve had cell phones for 30 years. Never mentioned anything about them being smart the whole time.

          • fidodo@lemmy.world
            12·
            10 months ago

            What would you be able to see on a 30 year old cell phone that would make you throw it? A weird number?

            • gregorum@lemm.eeEnglish
              21·
              10 months ago

              i’d like to know what hallucinogen you’re on or neurological damage you have, as you keep responding to things i never said-- i never mentioned a 30 year-old cell phone.

              • fidodo@lemmy.world
                12·
                10 months ago

                So “in 30 years” you never wanted to throw your non existent cell phone. Your original comment just doesn’t make sense.

                • gregorum@lemm.eeEnglish
                  21·
                  10 months ago

                  It doesn’t make sense to you, because something is very wrong with your brain.

                  Best of luck with that

      • Chewy@discuss.tchncs.de
        1·
        11 months ago

        Linux phones aren’t supported because it’s an Xorg feature. Usually Linux phones use Wayland for the better (touch) experience. If someone wanted to they could implement it on a Wayland compositor, but given that no other OS I know of supports diagonal mode, I wouldn’t hold my breath.

  • grue@lemmy.worldEnglish
    124·
    11 months ago

    BRB, sticking microcontrollers to the back of my monitors so I can use their accelerometers to report the orientations in real time…

  • lynx@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
    17·
    11 months ago

    How can you do fractional rotation? Does it only work with x11 or is it also supported in wayland?

    • Chewy@discuss.tchncs.de
      23·
      11 months ago

      Rotating the display by a custom angle is possible through xrandr on X.org.

      There’s no Wayland protocol for custom angle rotation, and I don’t expect anyone to create a protocol extension without a use-case.

      My wild guess: Theoretically it should be possible for a compositor to support similar custom rotation, as applications simply draw to their surface (window), without knowing how and where it is displayed on the viewport (display).

      But it might require quite a bit of work, depending on the project, so I don’t expect to ever see custom rotation on anything besides smaller/niche compositors.

      [1] https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/552138/rotate-a-display-by-custom-angle#552140

      • grue@lemmy.worldEnglish
        11·
        11 months ago

        There’s no Wayland protocol for custom angle rotation, and I don’t expect anyone to create a protocol extension without a use-case.

        [gestures at thread] Does this not count??? 😁

        Seriously, though: I suspect there might be non-novelty use-cases in mobile devices, especially things like smart watches. Those aren’t beyond the scope of Wayland in the long run, are they?

        • Zangoose@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
          1·
          11 months ago

          Ok I was joking with the images but now that I think about it this would likely be pretty useful to have on smart watches with circular displays.

          E.g. having the watch face rotating to face towards the wearer would be a pretty neat concept. Definitely something I’d want a toggle for though.

        • barsoap@lemm.ee
          1·
          11 months ago

          Smart watches tend to be microcontroller class devices because even though you can fit something powerful in there, powering it and heat dissipation make it silly.

          The usual embedded-type application for wayland that it’s even especially designed for is automotive: Things without window management but not particularly hardware-restrained. Also think public transit ticket machines, ATMs, such things. In that sense, from wayland’s perspective android is already desktop.

    • AgnosticMammal@lemmy.zip
      7·
      11 months ago

      I was looking into this earlier to try fixing a display that was being offset on an old tv screen. The display was going off the left side of the TV, causing a black bar on the right side.

      I was trying xrandr, and fixed it somewhat by offsetting the display back, but somehow it did not fix the right side - it seemed as if the display had went under the black bar.

      But yeah you can offset, stretch, skew and rotate with xrandr

      • lynx@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        10·
        11 months ago

        The --rotate normal,inverted,left,right does not work, but you can use the transform option to achieve the same effect. To create the transformation matrix you can use something like: https://angrytools.com/css-generator/transform/

        • for translateXY enter half the screen resolution
        • don’t copy the generated code, it has the numbers in the wrong order just type out the matrix row wise.

        The final command looks like this:

        xrandr --output screen-1 --transform 0.87,-0.50,960,0.50,0.87,540,0,0,1

        To restore the original use (type this in first, because if you screw up you might not be able to see anything anymore):

        xrandr --output screen-1 --transform 1,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,1

        I tested it on x11.

        • AgnosticMammal@lemmy.zip
          1·
          11 months ago

          It only had two modes for the VGA source, 16:9 and 4:3. The 16:9 is the right ratio for the laptop but had the offset issue. The 4:3 makes it stretched out / squashed, but it doesn’t have the offset issue.

    • CrypticCoffee@lemmy.ml
      4·
      11 months ago

      Product owners, you mean. They are the ones that determine support level of browser and as a result, what testers focus on. Devs don’t focus on things that aren’t a priority because otherwise they’re working on that on the evenings and weekends free of charge.

  • xor@lemm.ee
    6·
    11 months ago

    a great prank for computer labs… just rotate everything by 0.5 degrees…

      • Zangoose@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
        3·
        11 months ago

        Add a randomizer that has a chance of resetting it back to normal every now and then for maximum chaos