It’s a potentially big moment for Bluesky.

Bluesky posts are finally open to the public::Bluesky remains an invite-only decentralized Twitter alternative, but now, you don’t need to be logged in to be able to see posts on the platform. The app has a new logo, too.

  • theluddite@lemmy.mlEnglish
    1491·
    10 months ago

    You can tell that technology is advancing rapidly because now you can type short-form text on the internet and everybody can read it. Truly innovative stuff.

    • that guy@lemmy.worldEnglish
      16·
      10 months ago

      I wonder if it’ll catch on only to get destroyed by political operatives and bots

  • Jo Miran@lemmy.mlEnglish
    571·
    10 months ago

    I got sent an invite ages ago. I’ve jumped in every so often but I am always shocked by how crap it is. Mastodon is so much better.

    • stackPeek@lemmy.worldEnglish
      21·
      10 months ago

      IKR? I’m disappointed that most of my favorite artists went there, instead of something like Mastodon

        • Echo Dot@feddit.ukEnglish
          411·
          10 months ago

          Mastodon is confusing mostly because it doesn’t help you in any way, it just sits there and goes “you have no feeds”. Well what am I supposed to do about that?

          There doesn’t seem to be a “discover” feature so you have to just magically know the usernames people already on the platform and then add them.

          • Bo7a@lemmy.caEnglish
            118·
            10 months ago

            This is at the top of all of the mastodon servers I have an account on. If someone lacks the curiosity to click the word explore, then that is on them, not on the tech.

            • Echo Dot@feddit.ukEnglish
              281·
              10 months ago

              If someone lacks the curiosity to click the word explore

              The cries of every dev throughout programming history. Why are the users so stupid?

              But the thing is, uses are stupid. People get confused if you put “sign in” instead of "log in’. If lots of people think that Mastodon is confusing then Mastodon is confusing. The consensus cannot be wrong. You might disagree with it but it cannot be wrong.

              It requires a UX overhaul by someone who actually understands UX and researches it. I used to do UX as my job specialization and trust me everyone thinks it’s easy and it isn’t.

              • Bo7a@lemmy.caEnglish
                11·
                10 months ago

                I actually don’t disagree much about the Dev/UX parts of your comment. But you should take note that I was replying to the statement:

                There doesn’t seem to be a “discover” feature

                • Echo Dot@feddit.ukEnglish
                  51·
                  10 months ago

                  Consensus doesn’t require everyone in the world to agree it just requires the majority to agree and clearly the majority do otherwise the comment that it’s confusing would not have been made.

                  It’s not up for debate, people find it confusing.

        • Plopp@lemmy.worldEnglish
          327·
          10 months ago

          Pretend? I’m a computer nerd and I put off signing up for Mastodon for months because of how complicated it is. I completely understand why normies nope the hell off.

          • moitoi@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
            93·
            10 months ago

            What people don’t understand is that you’re the algorithm on mastodon. You’re doing the work.

            I’m on it and it’s actually my best experience on social media for a long long time. People are nice and discussions aren’t toxic like on others. But, it comes with the cost to be the algorithm.

            • Plopp@lemmy.worldEnglish
              2·
              10 months ago

              Yeah once you’re on it it’s pretty great, although still a bit confusing with how the federation works. But learning what you should think about when choosing an instance, benefits of niche and general instances, big and small instances, what to do if you end up regretting your choice, how to find and add your friends and if they’re on an instance that federates with yours or not, learning about Mastodon privacy when it comes to posts and “DMs”, instance security etc etc etc. It’s a lot.

          • Bo7a@lemmy.caEnglish
            78·
            10 months ago

            This is ridiculous. Please turn in your nerd card.

        • fruitycoder@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
          8·
          10 months ago

          I found it and Lemmy frustrating to get started tbh. Besides the flagship instances early on finding a server I could actually join was a lot of research and trial and error.

      • Muyal_Hix@lemmy.worldEnglish
        134·
        10 months ago

        As an amateur artist, mastodon is really not friendly to newcomers like me.

        I had to figure out what an instance was and pick one (I chose mastodon.art since I was interested in that)

        After wondering why I couldn’t find other people’s accounts, it turned out that I shouldn’t have picked that instance because it had defederated from almost anyone else.

        So now I had to create another account in another instance, which turned out to be so full my posts were not getting any traction.

        With Bluesky I just created an account and I immediately gained a few followers

        It is just not worth the hastle.

        • stackPeek@lemmy.worldEnglish
          4·
          10 months ago

          Disappointed that you’re downvoted, because you’re right.

          And it actually made me remember my experience few months ago on that exact same Mastodon instance, mastodon.art–they blocked almost every other instance!!! Even something like kbin.social mind you! I don’t even know why they did it, I think they said something like alt-right content (CMIIW), but in my experience using kbin.social, I’ve never seen those kind of content. The worst thing I’ve seen from kbin.social is just… porn. It’s a good instance over all

          Sometimes I think defederation is what’s going to ruin fediverse. I get that it’s necessary, but if done like this, it’s a bad thing.

          I think if I’m gonna recommend Mastodon, I’m going to just recommend them the most popular instance. IMO the best thing about fediverse is that many different instance can talk to eachother, but that doesn’t mean it’s wrong to be “centralized”

          • natsume_shokogami@lemmy.worldEnglish
            4·
            10 months ago

            Mastodon.art is well-known for being trigger-happy at blocking and usually even frame false accusations, their trch.lgbt block has made people lose any trust on them, but there are still people still think they are doing good while in fact they cause more harm tho

    • Tiger Jerusalem@lemmy.worldEnglish
      112·
      10 months ago

      I don’t get the hate, I’ve been there for a year and the place is pretty cool with many writers and artists that aren’t on Mastodon. It feels like twitter on the good days. Maybe if you curate your friend list better you would get a better timeline?

    • ArghZombies@lemmy.worldEnglish
      84·
      10 months ago

      Mastodon is great if you want a social media site that’ll have people shout at you for not putting a Content Warning on a post about you eating a ham sandwich.

      • CancerMancer@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        11·
        10 months ago

        When I do something that offends you: this is real life and you need to accept it bigot

        When you do something that offends me: PUT A WARNING ON THAT

    • jacaw@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      2·
      10 months ago

      I had the exact opposite reaction when I got my invite a few months after jumping ship to Mastodon. Mastodon just doesn’t have good discoverability and didn’t have a lot of the people I used to follow on Twitter. Bluesky’s feeds feature solves the discoverability problem; I’ve already found way more people I want to follow on there than on my entire time on Mastodon.

    • Unforeseen@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      22·
      10 months ago

      Same, it seems like a bunch of people that want to get off twitter but don’t pull the plug so bluesky is thier backup plan in case it doesn’t work out.

  • SomeGuy69@lemmy.worldEnglish
    554·
    10 months ago

    They missed their chances. When I got the invite a few weeks ago, I did no longer care, because I already switched to Lemmy. There’s no place for Bluesky anymore, they missed the Twitter exodus and the Reddit one. They should’ve send my code years ago but didn’t. Such a fail of a company.

    • ugjka@lemmy.worldEnglish
      21·
      10 months ago

      I deleted my Bluesky account because no one who i invited used it. And bluesky invites are not even hot anymore, the last time i posted a bunch online no one grabbed them.

      Mastodon and Lemmy fills my void enough i don’t need extra places to go

      • Patch@feddit.ukEnglish
        8·
        10 months ago

        I only got on Bluesky a couple of months ago after a long wait, and honestly I don’t think I’ve been on there once since setting up the account. A trickle of my Twitter contacts seemed to move over there in the early days but the trickle dried up and it doesn’t look like many people are on there.

        I hope it still finds a niche for itself, but the ridiculous invite rationing thing really does seem to have killed the momentum for them.

        I’ve also lost interest in Mastodon, although again I’m willing to give it another go if it continues to grow. Mostly I’ve just found that I don’t really need to replace Twitter in my life; I’m just fine without it…

    • momo@lemmy.sdf.orgEnglish
      4·
      10 months ago

      I got the email a couple of days ago. I got halfway excited, I went to install the app, I got distracted, and I haven’t bothered to finish logging in yet. Back when I put in the application I was genuinely wanting to check it out but it seems like now there’s enough on offer that network effects are going to kill it whatever they do.

    • voxelastronaut@lemmy.worldEnglish
      512·
      10 months ago

      Sounds like someone’s upset they weren’t invited earlier lol.

      Do any of the babies downvoting want invites? Figured I’d offer out of charity.

  • negativeyoda@lemmy.worldEnglish
    30·
    10 months ago

    I got my “early” invite code a couple weeks ago and it was pretty cool finding accounts I’d previously followed on Twitter… and seeing how they haven’t posted in months

  • ZeroDrek@lemmy.worldEnglish
    311·
    10 months ago

    Can someone explain to me how Bluesky is different than Mastodon and if it’s not different why they bothered creating it when Mastodon exists? I truly don’t get it.

  • The Great King Virtue Is Dead!@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
    222·
    10 months ago

    its kind of crazy to me how many people are moving over to that place. on one hand i appreciate that it’s somewhat containing twitter culture protecting much better new socials like cohost but on the other, it is frustrating to have no access to so many people who switched to blue sky’s with its bizarre and abrubt popularity as an alternative platform despite being diet fediverse.

  • mark@programming.devEnglish
    20·
    10 months ago

    Yeah but note by “public” they really mean “if the post doesn’t require you to login”. They recently implemented a feature that lets users choose for their posts to be “public” but still require a login to see it.

  • Obinice@lemmy.worldEnglish
    162·
    10 months ago

    I wonder why they keep their platform so closed off. It’ll never ever go anywhere if people can’t even use it.

    All it has to do is copy Twitter when it was good some years ago, and do it very reliably. That’s it.

  • nullpotential@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
    152·
    10 months ago

    Why are people here, on this federated platform, excited for a centralized twitter clone that will eventually, inevitably, succumb to the same fate?

    • Blackmist@feddit.ukEnglish
      92·
      10 months ago

      A billionaire proof social network run by a billionaire. Federated only with itself. Has a .xyz domain name.

      I feel like I’m living in an episode of Silicon Valley.

      • toybastard@lemmy.worldEnglish
        3·
        10 months ago

        Jack isn’t involved anymore iirc. He got bullied off the platform & now just does his thing on whatever Nostr is

  • AutoTL;DR@lemmings.worldBEnglish
    7·
    10 months ago

    This is the best summary I could come up with:

    If you want to prevent people who aren’t logged in from seeing your posts, you can “discourage” that by clicking a toggle in settings.

    But Bluesky notes that “other apps may not honor this request” and that the toggle doesn’t make your account private.

    Previously, the app’s logo was a blue sky with clouds, but “early on, we noticed that people were organically using the butterfly emoji 🦋 to indicate their Bluesky handles,” Graber says in the blog post.

    And, as spotted by my colleague Parker Ortolani, the app has a fun animation that will feel familiar to fans of Twitter.

    With the increasing momentum behind ActivityPub — including the very public support from Meta’s Threads — I’ve worried that Bluesky, which is based on its own AT Protocol, might get left behind.

    But every time I hop over to my Bluesky account, it seems like people are having a lot of fun — the platform seems to be growing quickly, too — so hopefully the protocols can co-exist and usher in a fediverse future.

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