• beckerist@lemmy.world
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      11 months ago

      I’ve been wondering this myself so I just went ahead and read the FCCs CAN-SPAM business compliance guide.

      This is 100% a violation. As per section 7:

      You must honor a recipient’s opt-out request within 10 business days. You can’t charge a fee, require the recipient to give you any personally identifying information beyond an email address, or make the recipient take any step other than sending a reply email or visiting a single page on an Internet website as a condition for honoring an opt-out request

      OP could probably threaten a lawsuit and their practices will change quickly. That’s assuming the company does business in the US…

      edit: just realized this is stubhub. this smells like a lawsuit waiting to happen

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        There you have it.

        When I’ve been in OP’s situation, I filed a complaint with the FCC, performed a whois lookup on their site to send emails to the abuse/spam emails of their DNS registrar and host and inspected the email headers to email their email provider’s abuse/spam account(s). I’ve not yet had cause to reach out to my attorney general’s office when I’ve had a company violate CAN-SPAM, but it’s an option.
        I also make sure each company knows there’s a pending CAN-SPAM complaint. I keep it convivial, but serious. “Hey, just letting you know that one of your clients is violating your terms of service and the law! A complaint has already been lodged with the FCC. Toodeloo!”
        That bit of knowledge tends to shift the interpretation of your complaint from “annoyed nerd” to “someone politely informing you that you’re going to get skull fucked by the long dick of the law if you don’t fix this ASAP”

        It may sound sort of excessive, but I’m a bit of a consumer rights absolutist.

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        You must honor a recipient’s opt-out request within 10 business days.

        Oh, this explain why they say “may take up to 10 business days.” Why do they have two weeks to remove a name when it can be done near-instantly? It’s not like a person is manually removing every single name that opts out.

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      Maybe I am ignorant, but report to who?

      I guess below in another comment that was answered. Send it to their registrar.

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        11 months ago

        With a lot of people using free email services, most have some report button. What this does is flag the specific email as potential spam that you specifically do not want to see. With enough people doing that, the probability of the email and subsequently the source domain being spam and spam generators goes up. High probability means the emails may end up in the spam folder without hitting your inbox.

        There’s a bit of fine tuning email marketing can do to mitigate that, like not sending emails too frequently. But that’s not a passive thing they can do, which is why there are teams devoted to email marketing specifically at some companies.

        The worst thing for a marketeer is to be dumped in spam. No one will ever see it or any future emails.

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        Yeah I had to do this to a couple lists because I have a very simple email address that gets added to things all the time, but if it’s really irritating to unsubscribe, I just click my email settings to report spam or fishing, and that usually creates an automatic filter for that center so you never get bothered again.

        You can manually create a filter in the settings to send all their messages to trash or spam if you want as well.

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      Yeah any emails that don’t have a simple Unsubscribe link, just hit Report Spam. It’s surprisingly common.

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      11 months ago

      If it has been particularly frustrating for me, I’ll even go out of my way to block the whole domain.

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      I’ve seen many a clutched pearl at the suggestion of doing this.

      Fuckin, if it’s a problem for me to treat emails I don’t want like that, then they need to stop sending so goddamn many. I get maybe 5 emails a week in actually looking for, and that’s extremely generous. 5 a month would be just as believable.

      I probably get 100+ emails a week.

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        The only ones upset at your approach are the problem anyway.

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        11 months ago

        100/week? I just checked my personal and work inboxes for yesterday (Jan 2), and recieved 93 emails.

        I have had 35 so far today (its 9.30am in my time zone)

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    That’s one of the most unethical ways to have users unsubscribe, and it’s done on purpose.

    Companies who do that should get DOS attacked until their email infrastructure crumbles.

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    Are there any lawyers taking on cases like this? Cause I’d consider donating to a patreon if someone was out there fighting the good fight

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    This is why I use a random email for every service that I can simply turn off on my end if they don’t behave.

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      You can also create aliases on most sites by adding a + and a suffix to your email

      eg. Register with the site name

      your.email+stubhub@gmail.com

      And then if you get fed up just set up a filter to put everything that comes to that specific address into the trash

      But the thing to do is that if they dont send you a link that automatically undubscribes you is to mark it as spam

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        A lot of services won’t let you use the +, and it’s also trivial to get rid of the extension with Regex.

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    I got an email that was spam/marketing for one of my accounts. This is a copy paste:

    This notification email has been sent to you as part of your REDACTED benefits. You will continue to receive these benefit notification emails even if you have requested not to receive commercial emails for this account.

    Needless to say, I simply called and cancelled my account. When asked why, I told them that I don’t want spam emails from them for marketing or for “benefits”.

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      Without knowing the details, it’s hard to say. Yes this could be a spam tactic but various industries have laws saying they have to contact their users/clients/customers if they make a change- e.g. your bank has to notify you of new charges.

      Not a defense of someone using this to scam, but an explanation of why that language might be used if legitimate.

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    Recently Gmail has had a big pretty unsubscribe button at the top of all my emails like this.

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      This means that the sender includes a list-unsubscribe header, which is supported by a lot of email clients. Not sure if StubHub does this, but it’s worth checking.

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    Set up a small raspberry pi device that is.programmed to constantly spam them with nonsense emails and give it a decent battery and casing and hide it near somewhere with public wifi.

    Maybe tie it into that Wisdom of Deepak Chopra text generator or something.

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      If you can even find an email to spam, all you’re going to do is get the IPs of the public wifi blacklisted. Whatever department at StubHub is sending those emails will probably never even know.