• eclectic_electron@sh.itjust.works
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    10 months ago

    Tipping is “not required” the way that not cheating on an SO is “not required”. No, you’re not going to get arrested for it, but that doesn’t make it okay.

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      10 months ago

      This is more like someone I barely know and never agreed to be in a relationship with getting upset about me seeing other people.

      If you agree to monogamy, it’s cheating and unethical for sure. If you don’t agree to monogamy, cheating isn’t even possible lol.

      So if I agree to pay the listed price of an item and then I pay for it in full…

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      10 months ago

      but that doesn’t make it okay.

      It’s okay to not to tip for normal service.

      Tipping is supposed to be done for extraordinary service, above the call of what the employee is normally required to do for the customer.

      If the employee is not earning enough then that’s a matter for between the employer and the employee to resolve, not the customer.

      • eclectic_electron@sh.itjust.works
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        10 months ago

        Unfortunately that’s not the reality in full service restaurants in the US, where I live. Servers are reliant on tips to live. The practice is pervasive. I don’t know of a single non-tipped full service restaurant in my city.

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          10 months ago

          Unfortunately that’s not the reality in full service restaurants in the US

          As someone who lives in the US and was actually at a full service restaurant just last night, I can’t agree, just depends on the place/region.

          Also, if you are basing your existence on just the goodwill of others, that’s not a smart or healthy way to live.

          Really get tired of repeating the same points over and over again, so I’ll just leave it as “everyone is the captain of their own ship”, metaphorically speaking.

          It’s okay to not to tip for normal service.

          Tipping is supposed to be done for extraordinary service, above the call of what the employee is normally required to do for the customer.

          If the employee is not earning enough then that’s a matter for between the employer and the employee to resolve, not the customer.

          • EatATaco@lemm.ee
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            10 months ago

            From all I’ve heard, wait staff actually like tipping because, if you’re good, you can make a decent amount of money that way.

            I personally would love to get rid of the tipping culture in the US, as I think we’ve passed a point where tips are just being asked for in far too many places, but the idea that tipping is bad for waitstaff is something I think they might, on a whole, disagree with.

            And where are you in the US where tipping at a full service restaurant is not customary?