The only thing i want is DIY paper printer with open source driver + DIY ink cartridges.
It’s kinda weird to me because i can find DIY 3d printer + it’s driver (open source) online, but no company made DIY paper printer with DIY cartridges until now
Fuck HP, Epson, Canon, or whatever big company printers out there
Well we don’t know if no one start to made it it
I think it’s good if someone out there trying to make open source driver, imagine if we can add more features to our printers (like duplex A5 printing for your case) & especially if you can bypass HP printers that can broken printer if you used aftermarket ink
Well what’s different with 3d printer ?
I think 3d printer it’s very complicated compared to paper printer because 3d printer can print objects in 3d (need to calibrated in x,y,z position just to make it right) but paper printer just 2d
I think the right answer because no one want to make it because the business model of selling paper printer itself already at profit loss, printer company made profits from selling ink cartridges not from selling the printer itself
The pulses of the laser and the pitch of those LEDs is generally way finer than what your run of the mill 3D printer is able to achieve reliably. And definitely finer than any nozzle you could put onto a 3D printer.
Theoretically you could DIY the spinning mirror approach, but it would be difficult to source the optical parts, and calibrating it would be a gigantic pain in the ass. Not to mention that it would likely be significantly more expensive than an off-the-shelf laser printer.
Also, guess what happens if you don’t have toner cartridge and print drum as one sealed unit. The printing medium is so fine it gets everywhere, ask anyone who ever tried reloading one of those cartridges.
Square Singer explained the difference with InkJet above.
Modern paper printers are deceptively advanced machines. They’d be pretty impressive if not for the greed of the manufacturers. High-precision parts made just right so that you could print out whatever annoying document your employer wants you to actually sign and bring in physically.
A 3D printer is comparatively slow and generally prints in one colour. As I said, you can make a plotter easily by swapping out the print head for a pen, but then you have a single-colour printer that’s significantly slower than modern laser printers, that can be upgraded to have multiple colours with a toolchanger but won’t produce anything near the resolution of an inkjet (or even a laser printer, tbh).
I feel like theoretically it maybe could be possible to turn an SLA printer into a paper printer, with resin solidifying on a page? But then how would you keep the rest of the page from being smudged?
If such a thing exists (DIY paper printers), I would like to know more, because the level of frustration I have with all the major printer mfrs I’ve used, is too damn high.
Bonus points if it’s a laser printer, extra bonus points if the components for the printer can be 3D printed (with obvious exceptions).
I just want a good, wired, network printer for everyday crap that I can use once in a blue moon for stupid documents that someone wants me to print, sign, scan and send back to them because they haven’t figured out how to do e-signatures yet… And the odd extra thing I need to print. Every time I print it seems like I need to reinstall the printer or update something to make it work. I buy laser printers so the ink doesn’t dry out before I can use it. The whole thing is so damned frustrating. Also, bluntly, unless you’re doing photo work, never buy an inkjet. They’re cheap, and there’s a reason they’re cheap. Inkjet has better color representation, so photo printers should probably be inkjet, for everything else, do yourself a favor and buy a laser printer. Toner lasts much, much, longer.
You can buy a DIY opensource 3D printer that can print on paper by putting a pen where the extruder is and use some open source software to convert text in GCODE.
The only thing i want is DIY paper printer with open source driver + DIY ink cartridges.
It’s kinda weird to me because i can find DIY 3d printer + it’s driver (open source) online, but no company made DIY paper printer with DIY cartridges until now
Fuck HP, Epson, Canon, or whatever big company printers out there
I have a Brother laser printer. (I love it, but that’s not important here.)
The firmware doesn’t support duplexing A5 paper. I’m wondering if this is a good place to dip my toe into the world of open source driver development.
Well we don’t know if no one start to made it it
I think it’s good if someone out there trying to make open source driver, imagine if we can add more features to our printers (like duplex A5 printing for your case) & especially if you can bypass HP printers that can broken printer if you used aftermarket ink
The problem is the most important parts of inkjet/laser printers are pretty difficult to make by hand.
You can DIY a plotter though. Probably could figure out a continuous supply of ink to the pen too?
Well what’s different with 3d printer ?
I think 3d printer it’s very complicated compared to paper printer because 3d printer can print objects in 3d (need to calibrated in x,y,z position just to make it right) but paper printer just 2d
I think the right answer because no one want to make it because the business model of selling paper printer itself already at profit loss, printer company made profits from selling ink cartridges not from selling the printer itself
Resolution, generally.
A laser printer operates by using UV light to make fine pigment powder stick to a drum by static electricity. True to it’s name, it used to be done via a laser that scanned the drum by reflecting off a rotating mirror - but nowadays it’s just as often a line of tiny UV LEDs. The pigment is than baked onto the paper by a small electric oven.
The pulses of the laser and the pitch of those LEDs is generally way finer than what your run of the mill 3D printer is able to achieve reliably. And definitely finer than any nozzle you could put onto a 3D printer.
Theoretically you could DIY the spinning mirror approach, but it would be difficult to source the optical parts, and calibrating it would be a gigantic pain in the ass. Not to mention that it would likely be significantly more expensive than an off-the-shelf laser printer.
Also, guess what happens if you don’t have toner cartridge and print drum as one sealed unit. The printing medium is so fine it gets everywhere, ask anyone who ever tried reloading one of those cartridges.
Square Singer explained the difference with InkJet above.
Modern paper printers are deceptively advanced machines. They’d be pretty impressive if not for the greed of the manufacturers. High-precision parts made just right so that you could print out whatever annoying document your employer wants you to actually sign and bring in physically.
A 3D printer is comparatively slow and generally prints in one colour. As I said, you can make a plotter easily by swapping out the print head for a pen, but then you have a single-colour printer that’s significantly slower than modern laser printers, that can be upgraded to have multiple colours with a toolchanger but won’t produce anything near the resolution of an inkjet (or even a laser printer, tbh).
For reference, this is how a plotter at work looks like. Similar to bed slingers, ain’t it.
I feel like theoretically it maybe could be possible to turn an SLA printer into a paper printer, with resin solidifying on a page? But then how would you keep the rest of the page from being smudged?
If such a thing exists (DIY paper printers), I would like to know more, because the level of frustration I have with all the major printer mfrs I’ve used, is too damn high.
Bonus points if it’s a laser printer, extra bonus points if the components for the printer can be 3D printed (with obvious exceptions).
I just want a good, wired, network printer for everyday crap that I can use once in a blue moon for stupid documents that someone wants me to print, sign, scan and send back to them because they haven’t figured out how to do e-signatures yet… And the odd extra thing I need to print. Every time I print it seems like I need to reinstall the printer or update something to make it work. I buy laser printers so the ink doesn’t dry out before I can use it. The whole thing is so damned frustrating. Also, bluntly, unless you’re doing photo work, never buy an inkjet. They’re cheap, and there’s a reason they’re cheap. Inkjet has better color representation, so photo printers should probably be inkjet, for everything else, do yourself a favor and buy a laser printer. Toner lasts much, much, longer.
An open source printer, you say? Interesting idea
Well, you can buy rubber stamps?
Super agree, paper printers are a scam imo
You can buy a DIY opensource 3D printer that can print on paper by putting a pen where the extruder is and use some open source software to convert text in GCODE.
https://github.com/boy1dr/3DWriter https://indestructables.private.coffee/Turn-Your-3D-Printer-Into-a-Plotter/